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2001 Week 16: Bye Week

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Week 16 was a bye week for the Pats, so we figured we'd do a bye week episode as well. In true Pats fashion, we look inwards at what we've done right (and mostly wrong). Followed by a deep dive of the talented but troubled Terry Glenn.


For those who want to do more reading on Glenn, here's the articles mentioned in the podcast:


  • https://people.com/archive/forged-by-fire-vol-47-no-3/
  • https://vault.si.com/vault/1997/01/27/a-true-survival-test-dont-try-telling-patriots-wideout-terry-glenn-that-theres-no-greater-pressure-than-playing-in-the-nfls-ultimate-game
  • https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/terry-glenn-jr-son-of-late-cowboys-star-terry-glenn-dead-of-apparent-accidental-overdose-at-22/


And here's a link to the hotly-debated Troy Brown biography: https://smile.amazon.com/Patriot-Pride-Life-England-Dynasty/dp/1629375217/

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This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

2001 Week 16: Bye Week

My sons, and of course Michael, sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying

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Well, it depends, you know, because they have the, they have this vaccine now, I think,

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So if they started injecting people with this stuff and then like two weeks later, other

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I think it's increased heart rate and having, like if you have some type of heart condition

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And if that happens, if it's November, then I think the football season will have been

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We're the odds that we've finished this podcast, the whole dynasty before the quarantine

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I know I'm just I'm just letting everybody else that that hasn't met us. No, it's not a better face

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I think we've already decided yeah weeks ago that the only person that doesn't have a face for radio was Mike

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I have in here. I think we already debunked this, but Aaron Glenn is not in the Hall of Fame.

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I believe we're also going back and forth on whether or not Terry Glenn got a Super Bowl ring.

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pay like a $3 million roster bonus, which they wouldn't have been able to fit into the cap.

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So that was why they couldn't bring them back. That seems a bit more clear at that time.

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And now what was the, is that what you were going to say last time before you went underwater?

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Sure. Well, yeah. All right. All right. Now we're on the same page. So you sent the rule for

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rolling. Okay. Whoa. Okay. So the end of the loop. Yeah. There you go. All right. We're on the

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same page. You're growing. All right. In week four, I think it was just me and Mike talking about

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Did a little bit of research, and I came up with, in terms of coaches and quarterbacks

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in the AOC East, about 58 of them have lost their job due to the ongoing Patriots dynasty.

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You're gonna throw my email? Yeah. Yeah. If you have an issue with the podcast email Greg.

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Now keep in mind that on our rate by the time you send us a question it might take us three months

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to answer it on air but hey it'll be answered. Yeah. Or you can you can hit up Mike Mello on Twitter

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at I don't know leave me alone. Yeah, so it is five three four. Yeah. Just the old the old Twitter.

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I write some do's on that one. Can I sneak peek my incognito Jonathan Martin? I have a relevant

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text from that. Oh, Jonathan Martin says, what's your address to which incognito responds one,

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Uh, so yeah, so the set, the second part of this was going to be, we're going to do some deep dives

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So he never knew his father and when Terry was 13 years old, his mother was beat to death

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She'd been killed on October 8, 1987, beaten to death by casual acquaintance who had been

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Kenneth Adams now 33 was sentenced to 10 to 25 years after pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter

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Onto locals and stuff for a few years before finally one of his friends parents took him in

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And it would they were like, you know friends and playful ball together and stuff like that

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that. And basically was raised by these people and he says that football saved his life because

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otherwise like a lot of his friends are dead and stuff like that. So like, dude had a rough

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upbringing. I think he was obviously good at football. I think that's pretty apparent

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by the rest of his career, but he actually walked on it, Ohio State, the V, Ohio State

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University. I think he got some other scholarships to play it like small plays, but decided he

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was just going to walk on there. And at the time, there was a guy who go on to play for

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the Oilers, who then turned to Titans Chris Sanders, and another name you might recognize

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Joey Galloway, where the starting wide receivers at Ohio State, that he decided to just walk

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even make it out of training camp you did yeah he made it a couple weeks and then whatever

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season that was I want to say oh six it was those dark years of right I'm gonna make that

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team that's what I'm saying yeah but it was I just remember Joey Galloway I think he ran

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the wrong route and Brady just like tore it on the entire time they were walking off the

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field. How many times is that going to happen with those new teammates? Oh, too soon.

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What you're saying? I don't know. He seems like he's had a harder life than than some.

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Yeah, it was slowly, you know, getting better. I think it was, what was that 20 years ago?

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I know, but I've also like helped out in the community, but I don't like to brag about that.

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Confused with another guy whose name was bill. So we just started going by bill because it was easier

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Oh your nicknames are never ones you want to have because those don't stick the ones you want to have don't stick

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So yeah, and then so there was all that shit with Parcels and Terry Glenn, and obviously

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He made his displeasure known referring to Glenn as she after Glenn pulled a hamstring

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two weeks in training camp and that force, well, quote unquote, forced him to miss the

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Now we've all heard of that part, but did Terry Blin ever comment on Parcel's just dean for him?

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He did he wasn't too bothered by it to be honest. Oh really? Yeah, because I think the quote

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I don't have the exact quote here. I don't think but it was something along the lines of

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That's a good question. Yeah, who's like draft to like right after him. I'm looking at the draft right now

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But Greg thinks a good point though, if there's no other names, then it's not the worst pick

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Because in his rookie season, he recorded 90 catches for 1100 yards and six touchdowns.

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And at the time, those 90 receptions were the most ever in a single season by a rookie in

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And then on October 30 set the franchise records with 13 receptions for 214 yards against the Cleveland Browns

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England proponent there back in the day and you told me that he sucked so I believe you even said that he didn't have the

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He is not caught to touch that well, you never caught two touchdowns in the game. Yeah

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But you said he didn't even have the ability to catch two touchdowns. Now you just talk words my mouth. That's a tough look Andy. Yeah, I know

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What the hell put more is my bond. I never said no, no, I heard that's what I heard. I was like no

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I heard a lot of things. Okay. I heard it too. Sure. You did. Thank you. See? All right. Hey,

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I mean, I'm on team Andy. How do you have 213 yards and only one touchdown? Okay, you guys

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go fuck you, Steve. I know this is so how about this Steve? Are you ready for this one? You're

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you'll probably like this too. Terry Glenn is the Drew Bledsoe of wide receiver. Okay.

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And I've said this frequently. Both of them could be in the Hall of Fame given a couple of

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Allegedly. I don't want to hear allegedly. Just is there anything even alleging it? No.

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Yeah. Definitely not football. 100% of football. So 99 is also when Terry Glenn's off the field

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stuff started to kind of catch up to him. He was cited for speeding was three hours late

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for practice. One done. That's why he was speeding. I mean, three hours late. It's tough look.

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He was also later accused of inappropriately inappropriately touching a woman outside a nightclub the previous night

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Then after missing the game against Buffalo Bills because of the flu he was suspended for the season final the season finale

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Although think about that if you can function and catch balls and touchdowns and all this other stuff up high

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heart sort of thing. I think it's more about money because if you like he said he's gone through

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worse I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a crap of bill Belichick stands by him or not. Yeah maybe

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but speaking of money in 2000 he signed a six-year 50 million dollar contract extension

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with an 11 and a half million dollar signing bonus so yeah it's pretty happy for back then.

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You thought these two would be the cornerstone of your offense for the next however long.

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So you're on to something. Yeah. Well, where it's the first time we've ever seen it, Andrew.

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On the condition that the three were back in Foxborough the next day for team meeting

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The players were later seen as strip club in Canada and Tyla was arrested for possession of ecstasy and they were also late getting to the money meeting

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Troy Brown was one of them. Troy Brown was on that list. Yeah, it was true. Was that a strip club? Tyla

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Because Greg Brown's one getting arrested for possession of access to the Canadian border. I guess I'll be the diva

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Didn't play heart, heart maybe, not hurt, maybe just being hurt because he's not getting

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He's like, well, but like Tyree kill nowadays, like he's gotten into more trouble than that.

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I think some of the same stuff, but that was confirmed to me was getting out of college.

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football. He puts up mad points in fantasy. Yeah, he does. But I can't believe that the

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in this dad asses and seats. I guess because the Chiefs cut ties with one guy, they get

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a pass for the other guy. Who do they cut ties with? The Karim hunt. Yeah, Karim hunt,

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who is now playing for the Browns? I think you just got a new deal. Yeah. So, so be fast

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How dare you skim over this and not apologize for putting me down about 10 minutes ago and

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Or just just how many pixies for us since you left the Patriots after you left the Patriots look it's a system to you

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2002 then 12 16 17 okay. Well again. We don't know Bella check like I'm gonna fall a G&D. This is

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Depressed yeah, he was feeling down that year and I can't really go into a big I should know about it as Patriots fans Jesus

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See, I heard a stand of comedians say that one time he was late for a flight and he just

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So yeah, sadly, 2017, Terry Glenn died at the age of 43, calling a one vehicle rollover

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traffic accident in 2017 in Irving, Texas near Dallas, which left his fiancee slightly

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Bella checked though, when finding out about it said, "I think he was deep down inside

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good person with good intentions and a good heart. Obviously it's very unfortunate passing,

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I mean it's just sad. It's a sad day, it's sad news. So kind of rough. He turns out there was,

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as you can probably imagine, both alcohol and marijuana in his blood when that happened.

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So didn't really learn his lessons of the rest of the times he was arrested for all that shit.

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the kids did you say? Well, it's funny you bring that up. I was just about to give that he has seven children. Whoa. Yeah. Um, five women, not particularly happy either. Because when was this December 3rd, 2019.

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I know we get, try to be funny a lot of times, but like some of this shit, like he went through some, some rough stuff.

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Um, that would target like a domestic violence awareness and things, which I think probably

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stemmed from the stuff that you had going on back in like 2001 when he was arrested for assaulting.

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I mean that too. Yeah. So I mean, a lot of it kind of followed him throughout all this stuff.

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Well, that's a thing too. I mean, it's such a horrible start to life, you know, so, uh,

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I don't know. It's a tough thing to shake. Yeah, especially with all the other baby. I mean, yeah, so

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what do you try to do, but that's extremely unfortunate. Yeah, that wasn't a lot about him

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talking about his personal life. He was pretty buttoned up about that. He just like was not a

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guy who would open up. He would try to do small, but it didn't really. I mean, Andy and I kind of

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But I will say that hopefully things are a little bit better for players to reach out without having

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the stigma or issues that stem from that and just addressing this stuff. Because also on top of

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of like dealing with a tragic past and you know, you have all this money and opportunity

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that you might not have not had before. I got to imagine that it's tough to navigate alone,

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Yeah, that's a rough one. That's what I'm just saying. Hopefully, you know, things are

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Yeah, I mean, the whole mental health thing, it's definitely better these days, right?

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I mean, I don't know for all the way there, but yeah, definitely better than it was like 15 years ago.

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Even things like CTE, like just understanding what it is and concussions and how they affect people.

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