2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

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Mike joins Andy for some Doug Flutie talk, as well as getting nerd boners over Brady's best game at this point in his young career. Want to hear two grown men discuss the heights of other grown men? This is the episode for you!

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Sunday October 14, 2001

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Episode Transcript

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

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you have the choice not to.

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My sons, and of course Michael, sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying

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to be funny, but really they're just being stupid.

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You still want to listen?

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Go right ahead.

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I am not your mother.

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Alright, let's kick this off.

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Welcome to the Patriots Dynasty podcast.

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This is episode five, I think, right?

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It was we're week five, two thousand one season.

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- I mean, the beginning was a little murky.

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I mean, we may or may not have recorded a few test runs,

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so I don't know, you're the boss.

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- Yeah, no, I'm completely lost as well,

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and who knows how this is gonna actually end up,

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but yeah, we'll call it for now, tentatively.

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We'll pencil in as episode five.

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- Love it.

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And obviously with me again today is Mr. Mellow.

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Mike, how are you doing?

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I'm doing pretty well.

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How are you doing?

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Good.

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Oh, I'm living the dream as always.

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I'm sitting here in my bedroom, talking to you about 2001

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Patreon season.

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As you do fully go this time.

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For the most part, yes.

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That's beautiful.

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I even got socks on today.

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It's cold here because it's officially winter in New England.

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And it is 27 degrees at the moment.

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I was gonna say I think it's probably like 58

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So your prize bundled up as I am automatic

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You know, I've got a nice button up

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You got the heat on I don't actually know well you have the the the wildfires that are probably keeping you warm

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They are love okay. Just kidding just kidding

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Damn it. You're already getting in trouble

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But yeah, I know things are fantastic, man. I was thinking about it and I don't say it enough

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But it is a pleasure to be here with you. Yeah, I look forward to doing these every week

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But yeah, it is just the two of us again

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The brothers are off gallivanting as always

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So I prefer frolicking. Oh

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You can prefer whatever you'd like. Thank you. Hey great

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He still never responded to my birthday wish from last week. So no, oh well next time he's all after giving him a bunch of shit for that

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Yeah, I'm not annoyed

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All right, so speaking of annoying coming into town

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This week week 5th of 2001 season where the at the time San Diego Chargers, which they no longer are

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Rest in peace. They could be the London Chargers at some point. That's true. Yeah, I mean, right?

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Yeah

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Who do you think like the quick sidebar?

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Yeah top top three possibilities are to move to London

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Well franchises I've given this no thought whatsoever. So yeah, I mean either I just came up with this

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So don't take anything I say as anything other than what I'm saying, but it's gospel. It's it's on recording

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So it's gospel now. We're gonna hold it. Well, I think I was thinking about this a lot recently not about the London thing

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But just in general, okay, we have multiple teams in California fine. Whatever true

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We have multiple teams in New York. We have multiple teams in Florida. That all makes sense Texas. Why why Ohio?

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Huh

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No, I'm saying it's not kind of the birthplace for isn't the Hall of Fame in Ohio - yeah, but do you need two two teams in that area?

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I mean, do you need one team in that area? Well, that's what I'm saying. So ship them both. I mean

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Like it so so you're gonna you're gonna move the Browns again

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You're gonna move the Bengals. Yes, which one goes to which one goes to England and which one goes to well

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Let's say Portugal. That's that's where your family's from. Yeah, I was

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Think that's problematic, but yeah, all right

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Yeah that too and freedom such oh, yeah

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Yeah, no, I think I feel like the I feel like London deserves the Browns, you know, they yeah

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They could use a little bit of drama, but nothing too happy nothing too

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Exciting, you know, yeah, I mean this is a country where it rains 80% of the time so they do enjoy themselves some misery

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Yeah, this is also a country that invented the game of soccer and hasn't won the World Cup

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1966. So I think the Browns would be a fitting franchise for them, but the Bengals aren't

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much better. I mean, they've never won as well.

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Well, I was even sick. If we ship them to Portugal, let's say, as you said, my people

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from the same other. I don't know. Whatever I'm trying to say is the Bengals would be perfect

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for the Portuguese because guess what?

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The Portuguese don't watch football.

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They don't give a damn and it would be perfect

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for the Bengals.

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- Yeah, it would, yeah.

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'Cause it's pretty much that as well.

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Yeah, not much would change.

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- Yeah, so I mean, wait, are you on board?

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You have any thoughts on this?

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- Yeah, well, I mean, my initial thought was

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forced Dan Snyder to sell the Redskins

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and then just change them to the Washington Redcoats.

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- Right, okay.

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- It still works out.

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I like that.

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And then just ship them over.

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It's problem solved.

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And you probably have to change the logo slightly.

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But I think you could just make the guy on the helmet paler.

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And it would probably still work.

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All right.

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So yeah, give him a little top hat or something.

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I don't know.

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These are not bad ideas.

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If somebody could get on this and tweet

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whoever needs to be tweeted, it would be great.

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Yeah, if somebody can get in contact with Roger Goodell,

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our our DMS are always open. He can hit us up and we'll we'll sell him these ideas for small money.

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Yeah, I don't know if you know, but he's currently

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meeting with Antonio Brown, I believe. Oh, that was today. Yes. Yeah. Can't wait to see what comes

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out of that. Yeah. So for all you listening to this in the future, and this is old news,

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And I still haven't heard what happens on your brown.

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Please let me know.

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Yeah, please tweet @MikeMella.

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Even half Twitter.

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I don't know.

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No, I got a sign on it.

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Although my guess is your Twitter handle will be leave me low.

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Me alone.

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What was it?

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What was your that was?

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Yeah, I was going through stuff.

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But it was me low in the middle, but it was leave me alone.

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Right.

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Which I thought was super clever.

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Yeah.

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No, I'm a big fan of work playing.

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I was I was I was impressed with that one, you know, but those are darker times and we're here for that football

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Yeah life could be better

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Sunny, you know warm least for imagination right at least inside this conversation. It's beautiful. It is

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You know I see you beautiful. Well, what else is beautiful?

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The New England patreon. Yes. Well, let's yeah, let's talk about these charges speaking of warm. All right fine

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so this was

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I thought an interesting group of players in general.

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The head coach was Mike Riley,

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who I had never heard of, still never heard of.

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I mean, it's not a name that I remember,

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I don't know about you.

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- I don't, it not really, doesn't ring well.

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- No, not even a little bit.

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I saw a picture of him, like I looked him up

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and everything, that not a fucking clue.

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I think he may have coached at Nebraska

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'cause he's wearing Nebraska stuff,

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even on his like football, like NFL profile, but good for him.

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Apparently only coaching NFL for three years, all with the

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chargers from 99 to 2001.

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Eight and eight the first year, one in 15 the second year, and then

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five and 11, and he was never invited back.

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At least he had a couple of NFL chargers haven't done much better

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since I mean, they had a couple of good runs, but yeah, they have.

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But every time they have a good run, they fire their coach.

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So I mean, those guys, the Marty shot in high-meer word,

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didn't they go like 14 and two when he still got fired?

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- Yeah, they did. - Whatever the hell it was.

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- Yeah, it was the same, yeah.

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- So I mean, I'm sure we'll get to that at some point

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in this podcast down the road,

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because I think the Patriots had something to do with that.

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- I think so as well.

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- Yeah, but this charges team led by the well-renowned

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Mike Riley actually started the season 3 and 0 before losing their game before this one

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to the Browns, I think it was.

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So the 3 and 1 coming into this game and actually started the season 5 and 2 and ended it 5

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and 11.

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So I'll talk to you what happened because I'm not a Chargers fan, thank God.

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But that's just the wheels falling the fuck on it.

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It's very Buffalo Bills as it felt, which made sense because there are some ties here

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to the Buffalo Bills.

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I think the biggest tie would be they're starting quarterback Doug Flutie.

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Doug Doug

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Flutie.

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Yeah.

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If you didn't know before watching this game, the announcers would beat it over the fucking

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head for you that he is from Massachusetts. No played at BC. Get the fuck out of here.

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Right. Did you know that? Did you know that after the game? I did. Yeah. Oh, it was nauseating.

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It was it was the 2001 version of did you know this tight end played basketball on college

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sort of thing, you know? Did you know Patrick Mahomes used to play shortstop? Well, it's

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It's funny that you bring him up because I was actually thinking, correct me if I'm wrong,

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is fluting the original Patrick Mahomes.

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Ooh, I think so.

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Okay.

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Because he's...

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Because he has a farm.

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I mean, Hail Mary, all that.

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They have, I mean, they have had mobile quarterbacks before him because he was a raanal cunning

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him and Warren Moon and that lot and Steve Young.

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Yeah.

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Um, so maybe Steve Young may have been the first Patrick Mahomes.

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Are you saying that cause, uh, flutey short?

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I'm saying that cause they're all short.

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Yeah.

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They're all short and mobile.

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Is Stevie M.

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Short?

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He's not that big.

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I don't, I mean, he, I, he's not a Doug flutey short.

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Doug flute is five nine.

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Yeah.

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And that's what I'm getting at.

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That's why he can be Patrick Mahomes way to go, man.

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How tall is Patrick Mahomes?

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I have no idea.

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Steve Young is 6'2".

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See?

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It's taller than I am.

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So, yeah, he's my height, which...

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Wow!

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Okay, I just said taller than I am.

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You have to trump me by stating your height wonderful.

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Sorry.

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Well, I mean, you're not exactly...

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I mean, what, you, 6'?

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Yeah.

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Well, I think I'm like a quarter-minute job.

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Whatever.

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We'll call him 6'.

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I don't mind rounding up.

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I'm like 6'1" and 7'8", so 6'2" and you're 6'5".

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All right, Patrick. What do you think how tall you think Patrick Mahomes is comparatively?

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Oh, he seems tall and linky, so I gotta think he's like I

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Want to say well, I think he's probably like six feet

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He's six three. Yeah, right

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See that guy was built for this. I guess so

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What about and Tom Brady's actually six four so he's actually about Tom Brady size, which I always felt like he was much shorter

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Interesting

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Yeah, but yeah, flute. I don't know. I mean I say that because he had a rocket arm

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He was you know, he was pretty good at scrambling running. Yeah, I mean I guess he didn't do the cross body stuff

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I don't really know who does that other than maybe far

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Yeah, that's right

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But you know, I'm saying it right here Doug flute the original Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, no

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I think there's a lot of structure

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Right. Yeah, and I think he was a bit before his time for this. Oh, I agree, but he did

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you did have a good year this year even though they went 5 and 11 because the whole controversy

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like that's why I was bringing up the bills was that the bills had Doug Flutie and whoever

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they went with Todd Collins maybe.

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Where are the bills? Was there any about Rob Johnson?

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That's who it was. Yeah, I knew it was one of those. I don't even know. I don't even

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the column anymore, just the plethora of fucking awful bills quarterbacks.

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Rob Johnson, so they had both of those in the prior year, like switching back and forth

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between them.

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And let's see, I have it here.

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Johnson started 11 games, went four and seven. Doug Flute started five games and went four

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and one.

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Well, and it's funny because Tom Donahue I think was the Bill's GM at that time. And

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he's that they decided to get his first salary cap reasons that can keep both of them or

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whatever. So they picked Rob Johnson because he is more talented. That is a quote. Yeah.

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No, it's 100% correct.

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And yeah, because they basically, I think Rob Johnson struggled.

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So they ended up putting fluting at the end of the year.

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And he won as many games as Rob Johnson did in half as many starts.

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Right.

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Because that's kind of what Flutey did.

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It was never particularly pretty, but he always found a way to do it.

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And had that like fourth quarter magic that the commentator in this game

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were gushing all over him.

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But they, yeah, because there was even a thing in the Boston Globe talking about how

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basically the bills had made the wrong choice.

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Stake with Rob Johnson because he went in 2001,

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'cause the charges who were one and 15 the year before

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got flutey and started off the season five and two.

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And Rob Johnson, on the other hand,

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started the season one and seven

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before he was bench for Alex van Pelt of all people.

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- Oh, nice.

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Yeah, I've heard of him.

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- He's fantastic.

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- Yeah, and he finished season two and six,

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so he was one game better than Rob Johnson,

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who they paid a bunch of money for.

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- Why? Because he is more talented.

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- Apparently, just barely.

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(laughs)

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- It's a disaster.

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- Yeah, so Flute had like--

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- I was getting the age thing though.

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- I mean, yeah, I think Flute was getting up in age

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at that point.

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Rob Johnson was 28 in 2001.

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And let's see how old Flootie was.

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He was probably significantly older.

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He was 39.

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- Yeah, I mean, so--

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- Which is 100.

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- The GM kind of just basically said,

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it's an age thing, we're trying to groom Rob Johnson,

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but instead he went with the talent.

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- Yeah, that came to backers to bite him a little bit.

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But yeah, so Flute had a decent year.

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He threw for almost 3,500 yards, 15 touchdowns,

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but he also threw 18 picks.

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So kind of up and down,

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which I think we saw a little bit of in this game.

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He was actually pretty good in this game,

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but not as effective in the red zone.

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He also finished with--

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- He's 12-in-one all time before this game

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at Foxborough.

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- That's true, yeah.

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But most of those games were well-playing for BC.

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Hey, well, it counts.

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But he had already done a stint with the Patriots

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before this, which was interesting.

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'Cause I remember when he came back when he was like

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in his 40s.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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And he had the drop kick for the extra point.

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Exactly.

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But I didn't realize he kind of,

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yeah, he started it in Chicago back in the 80s,

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came to New England for a couple of years,

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didn't really play much.

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i started a few games actually in eighty eight he actually started nine games on

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six and three

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but they didn't stick with them many went to buffalo and then san diego and

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then back to me for that one year

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well and i'm i mean bellet check out a lot of respect from the uh... i mean

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uh...

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at the end of the game he saw them out there in my heart

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uh...

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again those before he sold his soul which we established with circa two thousand

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four right

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right right

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Well, did you catch when, and just jumping ahead a little bit, but when Brady

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through his last touchdown, right at the end, he, they, they showed a shot of

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him celebrating.

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Yeah.

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And his face, like no smile, nothing.

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He just threw his hands up in the touchdown celebration.

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Yeah.

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That was it.

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That he was done.

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Yeah.

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Oh, it's good.

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Yeah.

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But the one other thing that they didn't actually mention at all in this game,

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But I found out during research on the Chargers was the backup to Doug Flutey

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and was sitting on the bench was a rookie Drew Brees.

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That's right.

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Yeah, who didn't see the game at all.

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And would I think he I think from what I remember Drew Brees actually kind of

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struggled a bit at San Diego.

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Yeah.

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And then he got hurt and then he did.

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Yeah.

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And then they moved on and we all know what happened.

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I will say though, one of my notes about Doug Flute was I haven't seen anybody put as much

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effort into throwing a football.

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It's in Strewbreeze as Doug Flute.

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He puts a 120% effort in throwing that football.

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Looks like he's going to tear his top half of his body off his bottom half.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, he does zip him in there though.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, he does.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But even like any sort of it doesn't matter what it is.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's just slinging it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's amazing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So what you're saying is he's not the original Patrick Mahomes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's the top of the family tree.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, almost like a coaching tree, but with quarterbacks,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he's the top and coming off of him at one side is Patrick Mahomes

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and the other side is rubris.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Wow. So it all starts with flute. I love it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It does. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That is the beginning of both of those gas trees.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Doug flew to the cave that way.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That he threw a Hail Mary pass at Boston College.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That sounds familiar.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, to be like a like undefeated Miami team or something like that, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The number one ranked team at the time.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I don't know who it was.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, I just remember the celebration videos.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Where is wearing the cutoff shirt?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, hell yeah, the cutoff.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. Oh, God.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Speaking of rookies on this Chargers team, they're running back.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You may have heard of them, Ladani and Tomlinson.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This was his record season.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Hello, rookie season. Yeah. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You ran for 1200 yards in 10 touchdowns this year.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And at this point of the season was actually the leading rusher going into this game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I was insane too, because they were pointing out that at this point,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

week five, he had seven touchdowns. And the previous year, the Tigers had seven Russian

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

touchdowns total. Yeah, he already had a week five.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it was a pretty big upgrade. Although now that we talk about it, the week five,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you had seven touchdowns, he finished the year with 10 touchdowns.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, so I, I, I, my guess is that either teams figured him out or they just figured

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that offense out because I mean, they stopped winning games. So my guess is they got behind

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and had to just start chucking the ball and go away from actually running it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because even this game, they tried to stick with the run, but LT finished 24 carries 74 yards.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's not crazy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He had a touchdown, but as long as Ron was 14, it's not like he was blowing things up in this game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, he looked good and he had some pretty strong runs.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But the page actually kept him surprisingly bottled up for how much the commentators were talking him up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I thought it was gonna be a bigger deal.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He also made me think of you because I'm correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he one of your favorite players of all time?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, no, he was exactly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm upset.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Correct.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm not one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Exactly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I I've hated him ever since he came out.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's got a Jersey, didn't you?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, I'm sure.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You want to admit it to the public?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't I don't buy non-patri.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Actually, well, I do buy non-pager jerseys, but they're of usually failures

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

My favorite is Maurice Clorat, Jersey. Oh, that's a sore subject. Hey

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was a cheap jersey. I'll tell you that I got it for like 15 bucks

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And like whatever that marshals is in Lawrence. Oh, yeah, yeah, it sells like yeah all the the jerseys with like

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I've got a couple of ones. I think I have ones like Tim couch. I've got one that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Are they like legit though, are they like slavery wonky? No, I well these ones are actually pretty legit. I have one that's um, I

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Can't remember who was some bills receiver, but the the name was put on upside down. Oh

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I have a date with the numbers were off center. Yeah

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, so we probably shopped at the same place then. Yeah, yeah, and I had who was the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The Raiders quarterback Aaron Brooks was it. Oh Aaron Brooks. Yeah. Yeah, so I got one of those

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I was given those away as Christmas gifts back in college. I actually have them anymore, but they're out there

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, all right if you don't want to admit to being the you get not you just the top five

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

biggest fans of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Think I think you may be confusing me with one of my brothers. So we'll have to ask them

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know we're going on the record

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the biggest. Yeah. A lot of dating Stan, if you will. Yeah. Oh boy. No, he sucks. Um,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he's had a huge, really good. You just, well, yeah, he wasn't such a blowhard. Actually,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he wasn't even below or hard anything. He was, uh, he's a kind of a pansy and you're

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

wanting to lie. But anyways, he has a martial flop. They hate the Patriots and the patch

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm sick. Oh, they do and Mark Bernal of all people.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mark Bernal. Yeah. He was crying over the flake gate.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm not sure that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Get over your family crying on television.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Come on.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Some people. Jerry, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He was mad because he lost the as he championed it against them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yep. Yep.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Jerry Rice. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mr. Sticklem loved the guy, but he admits to cheating himself,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which I would say deflated or not intentional or not.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Who gives a crap about one PS tie?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But if you had glue in your hands, that probably has a contribution to certain parts of the game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You would think, wouldn't you?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But hey, who am I?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Let's just let's be right on here.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We have that guarantee he'd come on right now to defend his honor.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So let's do that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because all right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'll have I'll have our people talk to his people, see what we can set up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Make it happen, man, because I'm curious.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Speaking of wide receivers though,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

had you heard of any of these charges wide receivers?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'Cause here's the list that I have.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I have Curtis Conway who was their leading team.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I remember him.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I didn't.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Jeff Graham who, if you had told me the name Jeff Graham,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I would have thought he was like a standup comedian.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- He is, he's fucking hilarious.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughing)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

His standup special came out two months ago.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I highly recommend you watch it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think it's a house like I'm not sure.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Okay, all right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'll keep an eye out for that when I'm browsing Netflix.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, he's really good.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- And then the only name I actually did recognize

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

was Tim Dwight.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Tim Dwight was good solid for the Turner.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- He eventually played for the Patriots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- When was that?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I vaguely remember that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I don't remember.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was like end of his career and he didn't last very long.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think he was just there to do punt returns.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in uh, he was supposed to spell either Welker or Edelman at part returns and he didn't

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

catch.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Gotcha.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Gotcha.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But uh, he was good in this game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He, the Patriots couldn't stop a, a wide receiver slant or they just didn't want to.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And they, they apparently forgot how to tackle on special teams.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh yeah, kick offs were an adventure to say that for both sides, I feel like.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, look, I mean, I've been a champion of Lee Johnson.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, we'll get to Lee Johnson.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Just you wait.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, I got a big old section on Lee Johnson to talk about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

OK, I'll loft my championing this guy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And that's the problem with yourself out there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, you shouldn't have done it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But the defense actually has some even bigger names.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I thought some names.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's Pat's fans will also recognize

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

because both Rodney Harrison and Junior Seo, who made the Pro Bowl this year,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

ended up playing the Patriots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like 2019?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, 2001, this year that we're talking about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The reason for this podcast, Mr.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Melon.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I thought you were saying, okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I don't like he's making any Pro Bowls this year.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I thought you were being insensitive.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Junior Seo, Rest in Peace, bud.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Exactly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was awesome.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, he was a heart and soul of the team.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And yeah, so that between it was those two and also Marcel is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

wily on the defensive line.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I guess Ryan McNeil, the cornerback went to the Pro Bowl this year as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Those four were all defense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So set in the stage there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think talking about how good this defense was, we should actually start

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

talking about the page's offense because, and especially Tom Brady, because this to me was the first game that Brady actually was the reason the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

pages of one, like in his career.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, wait a, wait a, you know, bring that up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So we've even talked about it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Give it a little suspense, man.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Now, you know, no one remembers the outcome of these games.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like we, we've given this game in 20 years of suspense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, no, we got a all right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Fine.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They won guys.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They won this game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, I actually, I think this is me being serious here.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think that this game outside of any championship

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

or playoff games, it's probably--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and it's one that you don't even think about,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but it's probably like one of the top 20 regular season

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

games of the Dynasty.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it's definitely worth a rewatch

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

if anyone has access to it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I 100% because I was I was watching the game today and I got like, I think it was eight

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

minutes left in the fourth quarter.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I knew what the outcome was.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm still sitting there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I had a moment of doubt of like, wait, they, they do win this game, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like how I'm not quite sure how it's going to happen because they're down 10

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

points with eight minutes left and going against this ridiculous defense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I really, like not knowing the results going in.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

man. Because I didn't. And I was like, well, this is pretty cool. I feel like I'm

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

reliving like everything all over again.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

See that, because that's how you've been watching is, but I knew, because yeah,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I've been for my website, I've like been in this, like all these stats and

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

everything and the results and all that for a while now. So I, yeah, I've kind of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like, I know, like from numbers wise and win loss wise, like how the season went

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

on. But I don't actually remember watching this game. Like I don't remember.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And like, I remember Brady throwing his first touchdown. Like that that plays is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in my mind. And then the game winner did he throw to Wiggins.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, you know what's sad about this? I think I didn't miss a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

page with the game for, I think it's like 2007, to be honest.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, me too. So it was probably like, you know, I don't know, 15, 20 years, you

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you know, 15 years of like straight football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I didn't want to miss a game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was very important to me.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I, you know, love watching the Patriots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's a good time.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But looking back, I'm like, I don't remember a damn thing

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about anything that I wanted.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I made sure to watch every one of them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So maybe they all believed in together,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but I feel like looking back, I'm like, man,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I shouldn't have tried to catch every single one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- But no, I just feel like because it's also been 20 years.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I know, I know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And at the moment, you're experiencing it, you know,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

as it happened.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's one thing, but I'm like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I do not remember most of this.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's great to watch it again.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- It really is, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I was thinking the exact same thing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's like this for like how,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like the, all the feelings that I remember this season,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like the bits and pieces that I remember,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I thought I remembered more than I actually did.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because all of these games that I watched

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with the exception of the just one where,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

where blood so went down,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I remembered almost nothing of any of these games.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And so it is almost like part of it is watching it

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for the first time, but you know how it's gonna end up,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which is kind of cool.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And there's also that added thing of like getting to see

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Tom Brady as a young fool taking his first steps

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for being born, knowing what that's gonna turn into.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And just hearing all the commentators talking about like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

"Oh, this young kid might be something one day."

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right, right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Oh, it's fascinating, 'cause the game itself

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

was awesome to watch, but the game before,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he sort of got crapped on by Miami.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So everyone was just writing them off,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like we talked about, and they're like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

oh, what controversy, whatever.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And after this game, it sort of like reinvigorated everything.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I think it did, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, yeah, no, I think this was the beginning

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of the actual quarterback controversy

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for the Patriots in this year.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, I agree.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, but yeah, 'cause like you said,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like the Patriots, it felt like they had been written off

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'cause they were one and three at this point.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And when I was putting together,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I liked the Boston Globes, like sports pages

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for the day of and then the day after,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like pre-imposed game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The front page of the sports section,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the day of the game didn't have anything

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about the Patriots on it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh yeah, that's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Just wasn't there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it wasn't like the Red Sox,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think the Red Sox have been eliminated for the playoffs.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So just talking about like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it was all just baseball playoffs basically,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and some hockey stuff,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but there was no mention of the Patriots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I mean, that's pretty interesting though.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's been what, almost 20 years

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

since they were an afterthought.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, yeah, 'cause it wouldn't happen again.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'Cause this is when they kind of started winning

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and it didn't really stop for the next night.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Well, the other incredible thing about this is like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and I don't know if I mentioned this last week,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but watching this team kind of grow from the 2000 season

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

until now and then eventually what they became,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it's almost as if like you were watching like the bangles,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So the bangles, you know, they, they crap themselves

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

every year and then one year there's this kid,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, like the min-shoe guy or all these people.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And they take the tea by storm and they never let it up, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So, you know, they don't lose their job.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They were and it just continues from that point on.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So imagine the Bengals just becoming a powerhouse

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for the next 20 years tomorrow.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's what happened basically.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, when they're $100 million starting,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like franchise starting quarterback goes down

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and they're like, you know what fuck,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

we're gonna start this random dude

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Nobody's ever heard of.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, like a gardener Minshew.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, if you just taken them and just won the rest of the games

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and won the Super Bowl and then stuck around for the next 20

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

years, that's really hard to imagine.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Even if you want to put like Patrick Holmes in that list,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it's like, yeah, they got rid of a solid quarterback

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in Alex Smith.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And now all of a sudden, this kid that nobody really knew

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about even though he was drafting the first round,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

taking the world by storm.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But even he's struggling.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And he didn't want to Super Bowls for us.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You're like, what the fuck?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right, right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

MDP.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But the one thing I noticed about the Patriots offensive

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

game plan this was that it seemed like they were going to be

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

trusting Tom Brady in the game, even against this defense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, that's interesting.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You think of a had that going in because the run game was

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

not working from the beginning.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I mean, like they started the second drive, like inside their own 10 yard line.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The first play was, yeah, five wide zero running back, like empty backfield and letting Tom

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Bray throughout of his own end zone.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, you're right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, I also like, so he threw over 50 passes in this game, which is insane.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He did.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This is actually, I was looking it up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's the kind of 11th most passages I've ever thrown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's crazy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I was also wondering, because I mean, that defense was like brutal.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, it was, you know, they're fast, they're big, and they blitz a lot, especially with

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Rodney and Jr.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So, do you think that part of it was, especially when the run game just crapped itself, do

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you think that Bella Chek was like, "You know what?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We're going to give this kid experience and whatever happens happens."

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Or do you think it was more of a, "We're going to win this by doing it this way?"

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, I think I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It felt like they were like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

yeah, no, this kid can do what we ask of him.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I don't think they were asking a ton

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'cause there was a whole lot of like bubble screens

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and basically it seemed like they told them,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you know, if one of your wide receivers,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

if the defensive back plane against him

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

is often for 10 yards, just like catch a ball

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and chuck it at him and let him get that eight, nine yards,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you know, before the guy can catch them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'Cause they did that a bunch of times.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So what you're saying is that the top ready game plan hasn't changed for 20 years.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I mean, he was still throwing down the ball.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He could throw a beautiful outrope.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He could, but his deep ball, man, like I wrote that that was like one of the weaker,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you know, the weaker spots in his game was his,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I know he's never been like a perfect deep ball guy anyway, but in this game,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I, it looked like it needed to be worked on.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like, yeah, he was precisely accurate.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

his decision making was great.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But like yeah, his deep balls were a little off.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I thought he had a couple that were like right

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in the money, but they were dropped.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like number one, specifically from Patton down the sideline.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, it was surprising to see him overthrowing deep balls.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, obviously you need timing down with those guys.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- You know, you need to know what works.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- But like, you don't ever really see him

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

overthrow anybody anymore.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like that's not the-

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- 'Cause he can't.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughing)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Just kidding, guys.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, so this game he did throw his first ever touchdown

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

pass to the vaunted Terry Glenn, who had a--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

what I felt was a very Terry Glenn game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I mean, I agree.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And before we even get into that, do you find it odd

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

compared to maybe now even--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

do you find it odd that Bella checked

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

after suspending from a year, then he got reduced to four games and then he was forced to come back.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He didn't have to play him. So, did you find that it was odd that once the suspicion got reduced,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that he was disactive in the first game that he was back?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No. For a couple reasons. One, the main reason is because

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Belichick always says, "I'm doing what's best for the team." And what's best for the team is to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

have that talent on the field. And especially because it was

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

this defense. Because they I'm guessing they knew they were

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

going to have to throw it. And so to give Brady that option

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

because I don't remember how many catches he had in the first

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

half to England, but

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

think it was like nine. Yeah, and he went for like 97 yards

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in a touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Or maybe it was like six actually, but yeah, it was up

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

there. It's not like the yeah, but he was kind of the the main

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

option for Brady throwing balls kind of at the sideline that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Terry Glenn would make these diving.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Total amazing, which, I mean, if social media was like prominent, um, around that time, that would be, he might be like the next Odell Beckham.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Based on. Oh, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's catches alone.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, he was, he was making a ton of them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, he, I think he had one catch in the second half, but so very, very, very, very, very, very, like, disappeared immediately when the game actually started.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

How about, dude, he, he had that, I think three back to back sideline grabs and they were all like one of them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he went dead leg. He basically had the ball as he was flying out of bounds. His legs drop.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I don't know how this is humanly possible, but they drop. He did another one that was very

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

similar than the third time. He definitely caught a sideline catch and they called it incomplete.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. But that was a beautiful catch as well. So,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it was incredible to watch. But yeah, he felt he disappeared in the second half or whatever.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. Yeah. It's just typical Terry Glenn. Like, I mean, we're talking before we is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

entire career with the Patriots. He never had multiple touchdowns in a game. Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Which is mind blowing for how good of a player he was. Well, did I see the Randy Moss number

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I believe you made that claim.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I mean, I believe it was quickly debunked.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, if you want to stick with that, you're more the logon.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

OK, I'm just saying that, you know, great players don't necessarily have that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But no, I was correlating this to things like, like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

one of West Walker was like, you know, making a couple of foot jokes with.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

What's his face?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right. Yeah. So, though attack, even though wasn't the greatest thing for the team,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he'd bench them for the first quarter of that game and they lost. So true. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm like, why? Where's the double standard? Unless he just didn't like West, which I know

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that that is sort of rumored anyway, but yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I wonder if we would

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

know more if this, like you said, this was happening today and the age of social media and

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And if it would be more along the lines of seeing what Antonio Brown has been putting out there, it would have been similar to that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I don't know. But less was like such a quiet dude anyway, except for that one moment.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. I thought fairly severely. I mean, was that a playoff game?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mm. I think it was. Was that the playoff game? I don't remember. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm pretty sure it was a playoff game. It was a game for the quarter.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It may have been. Yeah. That was just a bad game all around.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I don't know. Now here's a, you know, maybe it's an out there question. I don't know. You can tell me, but

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

do you think that we could get Belichick on here at some point and have him discuss that?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

After he retires, yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, you think so?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think that would, yeah, because by the time we've actually caught up to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

modern day patriots in 19 years or however long it'll take us to do that,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He'll will hopefully have eventually retired at that point if he's still alive and then we will

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

have him on because we will be the preeminent uh Patriots podcast.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Dude in like 20 years I'm going to hold you to this.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay all right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

If I remember.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

If either of us is still alive in 20 years let's be honest.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's a long time.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah um all right so going back to Brady though one of the note I had on here was um

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

a couple, but the one that I want to talk about next is I

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

noticed that there was a whole lot of hard counts from Tom Brady.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I think that was in direct correlation to what the charges defense was doing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because it felt like every single play, at least Junior Seo, if not both middle linebackers,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

would run up and pretend to try time the snap count.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And both of them kind of like jumped on either side of the center there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I think even on the first drive, they had, I hadn't written down somewhere, but they, the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

first, I think it was the first drive they had two off-size penalties trying to time that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That jump and at least one of them was on junior sale.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then again, like towards the end of the game, even Rodney Harrison got into it was like trying

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

trying to time that would like jump over.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And actually on occasion,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I actually managed to get back on size

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

before the ball was actually snapped, but it was very like.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- That was sort of a knock on them

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

at that time in their careers as well though,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

because I think they were very sharp and aggressive,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but then at the same time, they were also very emotional.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- And so, if one or two things goes awry

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

or you hurt your team,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, they might be overcompensating

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and that sort of creates a whole different issue

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with the defense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Oh, absolutely.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So yeah, I mean, I think they had,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I know the Chargers end this game

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with like twice as many penalties as the Patriots had.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The vast majority of those were on the defense

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for things like jumping off sides

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

or just getting a bit too, like I said, emotional.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, and I also thought it was interesting

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in what Brady was doing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I think it was foreshadowing the rest of his career.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I mean, this kid's a young kid,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he's third game in and the defense was aggressive.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And he was willing to, you could already see him

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

throwing footballs at like people's feet on screens.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- So he was willing to give up that play,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which he never lost, but that's pretty unique

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for a young kid.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I don't necessarily remember thinking

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about that back then.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- But yeah, looking back, I mean,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he was pretty good at avoiding that kind of stuff

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and being aware of what was happening with the defense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, it was like the antithesis of Drew Bledsoe.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, it really was, man.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, it was a tough--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, trying to like, yeah, try to chuck that ball,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like no look pass over the over his shoulders.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's getting sacked, which is usually picked off

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for a turn for a touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, no, so, and I also like, you know,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Bell check was already throwing out different types

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of defense and whatnot on the other side of it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So there were, you can see little bits of both of them kind of coming together,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which was, I thought pretty cool.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So let's talk about the pages, Stephen.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's a good segue.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because I thought they bawled out in this game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This was the prototypical, Ben don't break defensive like showcase.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Cause the charges were, I think the best team in the red zone, I think they showed

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

a stat early on.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yep. - Or like, I don't know,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

top three or whatever it was,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like in scoring red zone touchdowns,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which on assuming most of those were

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Lydanian, Tal

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The first and that was in the first quarter. Yeah, so it was three three at that point

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I think that was a major turning point just to kind of prove what they could do

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Exactly and then they did it again at the end of the half - yep

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I think that actually ended in a miss field goal

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right yeah, yeah

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

well, no the the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Wasn't that wasn't the end of the half a miss by finitary actually that's right. Yeah, okay

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay, yeah, so it was, yeah, it was actually to begin the second quarter.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right, right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, you're right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, because then the charges drove all the way down and then kind of went three and

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

out in the like inside the 10-yard line, like first in goal, missed the field goal.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then the Patriots actually like from there marched all the way down the field and Brady

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

scored his first touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, and to piggyback off of that, I know what we're talking to you, fans.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but it was funny because Tom Brady throws his first touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Unitary misses the extra point.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- And then they're running the two minute drill.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The pads are in the second quarter.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Terry Gwen, another beautiful sideline catch.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Brady driving it like pretty, pretty well executed,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

two minute drill, and then

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Unitary misses the field wall.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- So that could be an up to just crush a team right there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, and just, you don't ever remember

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

six or six and

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

all of the actual points

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

yet but he would always have one of these games every once in a while remember he had

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

one of these against the Texans where

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the commentaries kept saying oh he's never missed a kick in doors and is over many years

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of playing any missing

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

foreign that game before he kicked the game winner over time

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

against the team they should have blown the doors off

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

right? Yeah. So I mean, it was, I mean, they have a lot of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

different things working against them, but we could go back to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the defense and tackle those later.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. Well, I mean, no, I mean, that's fine. We can keep talking

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about Tom Brady. I'll talk about Tom Brady for days, because

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that two minute offense, I think should be called out as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because it was a whole I think two minute Tom Brady was still

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

there. But the offense itself, it was like a slow mo version of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of what they do now.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And he was still trying to do trickery,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but he wasn't good at it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'Cause you can see him like the fake spike play.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Well, you can see he's calling routes to the receivers,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but then he's doing like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

oh, I'm gonna spike, I'm gonna spike it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And like nobody fall for that,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

except for the commentators like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

oh, I can't believe we threw them all there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Look like a fake spike.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right, right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- He was calling a play before he said

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he was gonna do a fake spike.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It took him like 45 seconds to get it off too.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, and the awareness of just like time out and things like that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like I made a note towards the end of the game as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, he executed the way he was supposed to, but I think he left like 30

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

seconds on the clock.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I guess that at some point Brady would never let that happen.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I bet he looks back on that now and be like, Oh, what the fuck was I thinking?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it almost came back to hunt them too.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's a big deal.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Um, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, we now I want to make sure we talk about that. But yeah, let's let's go back to the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Patriots defense, right because there was one stat at the beginning of the game that I thought

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

felt a little bit like this season kind of where

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, they mentioned that the Patriots defensive backs had scored more touchdowns

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Than pages wide receivers by a margin of two to one. Yeah, that's

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Which is brutal. It is very reminiscent of today though

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

A little bit. I mean not quite to the same extent. No, no, but yeah

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That was a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mean it to your point. I mean that's that's sort of why Terry Glimma was brought back. I guess exactly

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, because it it had been

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

What I think a lot of comedy his favorite word is when talking about offense like this it had been anemic right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It hit yeah, it hadn't been much I

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mean if we're gonna do a bit of a crossover Brian Cox who's been I think probably the defensive player of this season so far up into this point

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, you know, he's the energy behind that defense too

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I mean oh my god, yeah guys are just throwing their bodies around yeah, and they're feeding off of him

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You can you can feel it from from watching the game

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I think his big play of this game actually came on offense when he lined up his full back on a third one

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know and then they threw it to him and he caught it and got a first down

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's pretty awesome. That was beautiful. I'm like, Oh my God, a linebacker catching

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

passes from Tom Brady. This is this is some trickery. And like, Oh, just you wait.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Rables, Rables time is coming. I mean, yeah, we don't need to touch up that now, but man,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

his number is as a tight end or phenomenal. Really, yeah, they're out of control.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The other the other quote I had related to the offense actually here,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Jumping all over the place was um tight end has been really absent from the passing game. This is where they miss a player like Ben Coates

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mmm, which you could replace Ben Coates with

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Rob Gronkowski this year and it feels again very familiar in the red zone. Yeah, it's a good point

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean there was talk of like, you know, the present day Patriots sort of resembling the 2003 and 2004 Patriots whereas solid defense

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know the these sort of shorter plays

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

relying on passing backs or receiving backs.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So you might be right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Now I don't know if that has to do with Brady's age.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't think so,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

'cause I don't think his place following that much.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think it's just a structure of the team at this point.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, I think this year it's mostly just injuries

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

to all the big beef on offensive side of the ball, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, but in 2001,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I guess it was just building a foundation that this,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I mean, I was going to say Brady can kind of build off of and, you know, have a security blanket, but I guess with the guy like blood.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So you probably would want a security blanket if he could pick up that concept as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I don't think you ever did, obviously, but.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, no, I don't think so either.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think one of the bright spots I noticed on defense was every time lawyer, Malloy Blitz.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because his timing was in the pack of blood.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The, the, I wish that we could show this play, but, uh, which one there was a couple.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, there's one that he blasted Flutey and he was like, it was just, it was just

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

my lawyer and him and, uh, he flew to his credit.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, he tried to kind of get away, but, uh, he did not.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it was not have a chance.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, cause it was one of those ones where he came from his safe position

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and just timed it perfectly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So he hit the line and just came through unblocked

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and he did it once on a running plate too

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and caught LT in the backfield and just like lit him up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That man could, he could lay the wood like no other.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right, we're delivered the wood

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

as we learned last week on football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes, that is correct, yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Speaking of football or not, football,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

let's get to ya boy Lee Johnson.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Because what you were doing out there could be considered either football or not football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't think.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Did you like that?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That was a segue right there, but it was great.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And you're absolutely right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know what the hell is going on with this guy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, it's funny to me before we even get into what happened in this game with this guy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

At the end of the game, they interviewed over there basically like, you know, what if, what

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you get caught what happens and he basically said I've killed us enough to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

direct quote I've killed us enough if it happens it happens

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

yeah he's 40 years old we finished the game because of like one of his plays

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with negative 19 Russian guys so all at all I am this I don't know maybe this

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

was his last game we'll find out but yeah I'm not sure actually he admitted

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that he has been sucking and he was okay with being cut essentially I mean

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

this this was bad. His first punt was awful. And his second punt was really bad, but he got a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

good bounce off it. But the last punt, uh, it felt like your typical Patriots way of losing the game,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

where he got he got the, I think he got the, he was standing on his own 10 yard line, got the ball,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and went to go punt it was taken forever and a free rusher came in. So he tried to like take the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

ball and like put it round his back. I think he was going to try sides at the guy and then

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

kick it, but they got caught him. So we kind of had it in his like, he was holding onto the end of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the ball with his fingers and he was getting spun around and the ball just like flew out of his

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

hand backwards. So now the ball sitting on the five yard line, the guy that tackled him gets up,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

picks up the ball, Lee Johnson gets up and just kind of like watches him and then realize,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

oh fuck, this place still going and goes try to tackle him. He gets lit up by some other guy who's

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

come and knock his head off all the other guy who recovered the fumble just waltzes in for a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

touch and who was a backup fullback. He wasn't even like some sort of role player on this team.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right. Well, you know why he did that, which doesn't make any sense to me, but he has been

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

really for so long at this point that he said he'd seen this, you know, he's been rushed by a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

million guys. And so he feels that like because they're all full steam ahead, you could sort of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

of like, you know, fake them out and then get the ball off.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But he said that even when he was in the grass with a vendor, he felt confident

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that he could still get the kickoff.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

If anybody can see this play, he is holding it out.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like I can't even like give a proper analogy of this, but he's basically holding

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it out so that anybody can grab it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I feel like I'm going to see if I can cap that play and we'll put it online.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And if that happens nowadays, that guy is cut tomorrow.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh my god. And it's it's it's on sports centers, not top 10 for weeks as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Cause it was brutal.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And this was to put the Patriots down by 10 points with eight minutes left in the game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And at this point, because again, I didn't know the score or anything going into it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I was just like, Oh, wow.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, they blew it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, I was going to say this is exactly the point where I thought, wait, they, they

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

win this one, right? Like, did they run it out of time real

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

fucking fast here?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's funny. Well, I was thinking, man, like, this is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

going through my head a lot where, and again, I didn't know

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

what the score was going to be. So I was like, man, are they

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

gonna start off the season like one for like this isn't

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

insane? And then I was thinking, you know, you see, there's it's

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like the butterfly effect, right? So you see one, Bledso is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like coaching up Brady, they're all like best friends.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

basically holding hands and sharing secrets.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then he's also riding high.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Belichick is giving him opportunities.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And of course, he wins this game and things change

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

as the season goes on.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Maybe

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Bledsoe within a week or two comes back. It could definitely change the course of everything. I mean

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, that point decided to go with the backup anywhere to see what he has but it's true

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Everything could be different and we're already said with these rules nowadays and if Bledsoe stayed with the greatest coach of all time

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He could very well be the goat. Okay

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

be honest with yourself now he would have been good i don't know if he would have

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

been the goat he would have been the goat he he came

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

just just remember we're talking about your blood so in fourth quarters of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

games here

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

here

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you know that i don't know how to throw a uh... he would put up numbers

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

yet but you learn how to think it done

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

right here i would be getting to him

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

uh... and we would be talking about blood so potentially having twelve

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

super bowls right now

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but instead

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Brady, which potentially with like six at the moment, but potentially seven, we

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

know, but I'm not saying 12. We might we I'm not saying we might be better off

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with blood so the things would have been different. Yes, I think so. So thank

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

God. And thank God for Lee Johnson. Guys, Brady can thank him probably for a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

spot because he became the hero without Lee Johnson. Maybe there's no heroics at

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the end. Maybe not this level of heroics. You know what though? I'm going to retract

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

my statement on Lee Johnson. Fuck it. I like him. Yeah, I agree. He was he was the character

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that this team needed. Definitely a blue guy. Is that like a Batman reference? Like it

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

was the he was the villain that the hero needed? Sure. All right. We'll go with that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Anyways, yeah, he was the villain that the Patriots needed, man. I hope he sticks around

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for the rest of the year. I don't know what happened.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, me too. Yeah. So yeah, so I mean, that sets up this, the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

pages down by 10 with eight minutes left.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right. I'm saying obviously it's all.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's great. But they, uh, they get the ball back. They drive down

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the field and get inside the 10, but then kick a field goal

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

because they ran out of time or they ran out of like they got

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

on fourth down and they decided to kick a field goal instead.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So now it's like, I thought it was funny because the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And now there's again fantastic. They're going look, what do you think? What do you think happens?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think you got to go for a touchdown. You're this close. You got to go for a touchdown. And then when they bring out the the field goal unit,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

they're like, this is a smart play. You got to take the field goal here. You're down by two anyway, down by two schools.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know yet. But they were also saying that they're like, Oh, they definitely should go for it here. It's like they I'm not surprised.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

leave the offense on the field. They should be going for touch

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

on you. It makes sense because it was third down.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So it didn't get it then. And Brady's

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

running completion. Then fourth down comes and they they

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

trot the field goal. Like, Oh, actually, yeah, no, the field

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

goal here makes a lot of sense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, so yeah, so they kick the field goal and there's like

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

four minutes left in this game with Le Donien Thomas and Doug

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

fluting his fourth quarter magic, which we had heard about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Pretty much for the previous three hours, I'd say.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But the pages hold him three and out barely.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The first, the first play of that drive was an eight yard run by LT.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

To get them the second and two.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We're getting towards the two minute warring.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm like, they, no, they, they do win this, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That was, that was the second one, but then they, they held him two more runs, held him.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Got to the, I think the two minute warring is it like that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Call a couple of timeouts.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Get the ball back.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Troy Brown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Troy Brown has a ridiculous punt return.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He does.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And even before that, it was before the two minute warning.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They, uh, it was, um, after that, that eight yard run, it was the second

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and two and a third and one with bow.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Um, I think it was like two 23 left.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So yeah, Troy Brown gets the punt return and even with that penalty that gets

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

called, it's still sizable.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, because his return brings it to like the San Diego, San Diego 40.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, like it was a ridiculous return.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's like your typical Troy Brown return, but then got called back for holding,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

put them back on their own 40, which is still great field position.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then Brady, Brady from this point forward and the rest of the game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was like, and I'm talking defense offense, everything.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was probably one of the better games I've watched in a long time.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was yeah, it was like I was super excited.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm sitting or yelling at my my TV, even though I know what happened at the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

end.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm like, there's no way he got that because there was, you know, the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

typical, it was basically Brady and Troy Brown at the end of the game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All that last drive, it felt like.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Although they haven't got about, yeah, 26 yards.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yep.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The yard line.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yep.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But like, that I like, so it was 40 seconds left when they're on the three.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And this is what I'm talking about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They had one time out.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I basically like Brady burns it with 30 seconds left.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

There's no way they do that now.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They would probably wait for about 25 seconds, maybe.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I was gonna say 17.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Enough to run three plays and that's it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Exist that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's what you're going to, you're going to keep running plays until you either run out of time or, well, you're going to run four

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

plays and you're going to do as quickly as possible.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So yeah, leave yourself just enough time to do that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And that's it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, you're right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then the commentators are gushing over the play,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which is basically just a play action,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like a heavy run play action passing to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Jermaine Wiggins in the back corner of the end zone,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

who was a lot bigger than I remember him being.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, and a hefty boy, that one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- But also like pretty like shifty too.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's like, you know, he had a little bit of agility to him,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but I felt-- - But he was definitely not

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

receiving option that the charges were

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

at all worried about because he was wide the fuck open.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, but I feel like this was foreshadowing

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

basically the whole playoff run.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, I agree.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- We'll talk about, but Jermaine Wiggins

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

wasn't a household name, but I mean,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he's nearing the gear to my heart.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, so yeah, so that ties it up

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with a few seconds left, like 30 something seconds left.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, Paige is kicking off

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and the charges had a ridiculous return again

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

on a kickoff like they'd basically start

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the 40-yard line every drive.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

right. And then but wasn't that the one that tobacco Jones laid out the returner?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Which was right? Yeah. No, that one was. Yeah. Yeah. That and that was a, that was a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

lawyer, a lawyer's kit. You just pretty sure that I shoulder knocked it over

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

tackling in the kickoffs and all that from that point on, everything was just

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

spectacular. It was like almost like too much. Oh, yeah, it was. Oh, yeah,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

everything was perfect. So yeah, obviously the charges don't score. They almost got in a field goal range and then some like fuckery with Doug Flute try to spike the ball.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't think I've ever seen this before. No, but he so.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Then when I was watching this game original.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, so he pulled the ball up to like pull his arm back to spike it and the ball fell out of his hand and then he like tried to spike it but missed and the page recovered it but be the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The ref said because they blew the whistle when the ball hit the ground, they still got

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the ball back, but it moved the field go back five yards.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Who said it being like a 52 yards, a 57 yarder.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And the kicker came up like three yards short.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, and that was a big controversy not in that game, but like for a couple of years

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

where it was that whole thing where can you challenge something that has been whistled

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

down and there were enough of these plays that the eventually turned it over to what

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it is today.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Where you can pretty much challenge everything and overturn it, but yeah, because the whistle blue

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

There's nothing that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Dollar check to do about it right because that was the rule back in that that time right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, so I mean even that because if you saw the replay you could see a bunch of the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Sideline for the charges wrong to the field thinking the guy hit the field because it was straight down the middle

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He just missed it short by a couple yards right

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So then I think the the kickoff that you were talking about was the one in overtime. Yes. Yes

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You're right. I got the mix up because the charges actually won the toss right

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, and return the ball to the 40 yard line

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So they didn't need many yards. You go what 20 yards in your within field goal range now

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Venatory could never kick into the end. No, not until they moved the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, not until they move the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

kickoff up

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right, and it's not even like the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Gostowski thing where like you get like booted high up in the year and travel. Yeah, put it at the what no

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's put it like the 13 yard line. Yeah, man

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it was it was not a position of strength for this team at this point, right?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, so the Chargers get the ball at their own 40 knee basically what 20 25 yards to go

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, and they had actually been driving like late in the second half of this game

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the Patriots defense felt like they were kind of wearing down a bit, but in this particular

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

instance, they held, they charged one three and out, had to punt the ball back to the Patriots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

First play from scrimmage Brady froze a bomb down the right side of the field to Patton,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I believe it was, David Patton.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, but the crazy thing about this play is that it was an all-out blitz by San Diego

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And he stood in the pocket.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He kind of did his little dance in there and threw it up for classic, like PI.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it was like it was a blatant past.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So Patton got dragged down by a molding who had a whole section the next day's paper,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

talking about how he didn't think it was an actual legit call.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But he obviously didn't watch the replay because it was pretty blatant.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He got the ball was thrown a little bit too inside and he was playing inside technique

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And so Pat tried to cut back inside to him and he just fucking straight up tackles ass

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, and I've never seen anybody celebrate harder for getting a pass interference called

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Then David Patton on that play he was dancing like a motherfist do like a legitimate jig

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

well, and it's

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

fun to do is there a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

their celebration after this game was reminiscent of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Every team that I think we hate like you remember when like the Broncos with like we did yes

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes, the past he's like freaking it was like the Super Bowl for them

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This one it's Super Bowl at that time

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it's like the even the Ravens beating the Patriots this year with Lamar Jackson where they're taking the team photo after the game

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like this is this is the pager Super Bowl at this point

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it's so funny, but of course it ends on a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Venitary field roll. Oh, hang on a second. I gotta relocate for a second. Oh boy

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, this is embarrassing

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

College eyes no you leave in don't be a bitch. She told me I live my life

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

There's nothing wrong with technical difficulties. I don't know if you're grabbing a snack or something what you're doing. I mean, I

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Don't know we were hands are right now. I can't really see them

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm shifting to the living shifting what

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

My whole setup to the living rooms there I can go to bed

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, but

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We gotta keep this we gotta keep some of this you can't cut it out because it's BS

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You gotta listen back to it if you're aggressive cut it, but some of it could be good

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I just didn't want to skip over the fact that you were trying to just like end this game without talking about

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Brady on the next third down because I think this was

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Probably I don't say the biggest Brady play, but it was kind of very

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know how to put it. This was kind of like that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was a it was a third down it's like third and three or something like after the the passing appearance and

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Charge brought pressure from both sides. So it's a guy coming unblocked right in a Brady's face

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Another guy coming on his blind side who caught him like below the knees and then the other guy like chopped him over the top

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Mmm, and you just like floated the ball over the the rush of two of them and hit oh, you're right. Yeah

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it was a nice touch pass

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, cuz they were like right on the border of field goal range

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, and Brady just like stood there and just waited to the last possible second just like lost it over the guy

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

so that fault could get the first down and now they're like well within like middle of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Filgal range is like a 40-something yarn instead of like a 50 like a long 50 yarder. You are correct

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And so that was just like

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The like the that beginning inkling of oh this Brady kid like he he doesn't get rattled at all like that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Just imagining like watching group led so in those situations for all these years

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, he would have handled that. Yeah, how how he would have handled that versus this kid who's what is this his second official start

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Third game. Yeah, so it's just that kind of like this was I think that it's just those little plays like that where you think

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This kid might be all right

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yes that ended up not being so bad. There's all that whole ten year gap where we

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

thing and I'm really pissed off about that which maybe bloods close the gap. Yeah, I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But maybe he's all right. But yes, that does lead to the field goal you so desperately

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

want to get to. Yeah, man, Vividitary all the way. Redeemed to sell money. And they also kicked

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the field goal on third down, if you remember. They did. Yeah. Just in case there's another

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

tactic by bill and the announcers were crapping themselves.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They had no idea what to do about it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They're like, Oh, it's kicking on the third down.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, what is going on here?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Then they didn't obviously understand why.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, you know, it's funny.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Why get in the, um, you know, those, those newspaper columns where they would

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

have like sort of like who's better on what side of the ball for every

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

game. The Patriots were always negative on everything except for coaching.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it was always as true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I feel like, cause that time Belichick was an outside of being a defensive guy for the Giants.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, he was okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Um, but he always won the edge.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And now I'm realizing it's because nobody knew what the hell he was ever doing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it must be so true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I always come up to this like one, like bullshit thing that I was like, what, what was he doing here?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh my God.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's the genius of Belichick again.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Cause he like, he really hadn't proven himself at this point.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He had had that stint with the Browns where he'd done okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then he had his, uh, defensive game plan for the Super Bowl.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

when he was on the Giants as the defensive coordinator

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in the football hall of fame, but as a head coach,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he wasn't like this.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He didn't, I don't think he had that genius label yet.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- No, and I mean, he went, yeah, the five and 11.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, it shouldn't really garner that much, but.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- He definitely, he always edged them out

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

according to the announcers in the media,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which I guess was smart for once.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But they actually got that right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I know it was a hell of a game, man.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I enjoyed it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it was also weird that going into the game--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and I guess after this game-- so going into the game,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

they had a nine game winning streak versus the Chargers

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

dating back to the 7D.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Chargers of all teams.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's so funny.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And they kept it going.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So 10 straight.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So that was pretty great.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Eat that, San Diego.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, San Diego is.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You've got your weather, but we've got our 10 game winning streak.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, fuckers.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I mean, it's awesome.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Now, you know, we've reached the end of the game here and we did not really talk

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about, I mean, we talked a little bit about it, but we haven't really pointed

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

out the announcers as opposed to previous games.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I thought they were so professionally boring.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that they were tolerable, but I was annoyed that I couldn't get anything out of them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I had one quote now, but the one thing I'd like to start off by saying is, buddy, your name is Ian, not

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I am.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I know I am Neil.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I wrote it as I because I, you know, I want to be accurate here.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, but it's still Ian.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It is spelled in I and Eagle and Solomon Wilkots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Pretty is.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Solomon World Cots is a fantastic name.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

For some reason, every time I see that name, I think apricots, and I don't know why, but

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I feel like I was.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I picture apricots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Apricots, huh?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

How do you pronounce it?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's a bold, bold.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Apricots?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I go with apricots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Do you?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That sounds a little pretentious.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, growing up because, you know, my parents from England, so they always pronounce things

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was funny.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So like it was it was yogurt and said yogurt and I got a whole bunch of shit for that at

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

school.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I April cuts is like at least reasonable.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's what I yeah I got to go with the long days and the long vowels because that's usually

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

more Americans.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't actually know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I legit don't know if you're fucking with me or not.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think I.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Maybe apricots.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm not.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

My parents are Portuguese.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I'm not gonna do my fan- - My fan-tour Portuguese,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

so I'm not doing my fan-tour in this form.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- That's fair, but Abracot sounds too like,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

this is how the English pronounce it,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and you're gonna get shit on in third grade

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for saying it incorrectly, so I'm gonna do my fan-tour.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Okay, fair enough.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Go on, this is yours.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- But I had one comments from them.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They were talking about meeting

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Lydanian Talmensen for the first time.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know which one I was that said it,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but he said I was very surprised

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with the size of his lower body.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah, I feel like that can be a long term, but I do know what that one means.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it wouldn't be a question for you, but bringing that up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think he did eventually clarify that he was talking about his, his size.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes. Yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, he's like a green region.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. Oh, he just the lower body in general.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was all very big.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah. Oh, oh, I see.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

OK, so that was I thought he meant it the other way, which is kind of,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

weird because the other guy was laughing too. I don't know. But that does bring me to the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

next thing where I didn't think I was going to have enough terms that I didn't understand.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I got a couple.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, you did. Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You know, for a little bit of, and you know, I'm assuming we're going to run out of these

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

things that I don't know because I usually know a lot.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But you're learning. Yeah. So you'll know them from here on out.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I don't know if this is ever going to come back. But for now, we got another football

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

football going on here. And let me, you know, like I said, I'm gonna throw out a couple of things

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that I don't quite get. I did get the lower body thing. Well, I thought that I didn't see

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

clarified. But if you could just clarify these things for me, explain it to the people out there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Absolutely. Typical terms. But so the first one is carrying the load.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

carrying football and football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That is technically football, yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay, so what does that mean?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think it's oftentimes when running backs tend to get a higher workload.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And the end that the team is kind of running through them and they're getting into a rhythm.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The running back is said to be carrying the load.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, I see.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Carrying the team on their back sort of.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, so wait, could a quarterback carry the load as well?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Or does that not apply?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It probably could, but it tends to be used in,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

with running back to some reason.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Probably because they're dragging people

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

around on their backs as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's also like a physical carrying of the load.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Gotcha.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right, so that makes sense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Next one here is taking it right up in there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Ooh.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I can see how that could be confused as a football term.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay. Wait, do you think it's not football on this one?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm more on the fence with this one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Taking it right up in there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think I was, I was in sure.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think there's some context around that that would probably be pretty valuable.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, that's, that's true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I didn't write down what came before.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

After so I'm not really sure.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It just kind of threw me out because I've heard before.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm wondering if you had the wrong tab open for that one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, no, no.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

What do you mean by that?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Um, I mean, I think that, uh,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

you may have been on a site that was a background with some yellow. Yes, I was.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, okay. Yeah, but I don't know. So we're gonna say not football on that one.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, that's a gray area. I think we're gonna, yeah. Okay, this one I'm pretty

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

certain of what it is, but the next one was getting excited every time he touches

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

the ball. And like I think that's football. Who are they talking about?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to do a better job about this because because because that I think that would

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Great explain whether it was or wasn't football because if we're talking about

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Let's say Doug flute then that's probably football. But if we're talking about

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

True blood so in this case and maybe not. Oh, I see. Yeah, I gotta I gotta do it better with the with the context because I

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm not sure on that one. So we'll I don't know if it

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I got two more on this one one. Oh, it is about with the Indian I wrote so we go nice. Okay

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Tomlinson only has one goal of one. Oh, sorry. I fucked that up one hole

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

To go through the time only has one hole to go through and I think we were talking about last week

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yes, gaping holes and what not gaping holes and yeah and squeezing through them or something the tight holes or something

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, I'm guessing and this is like you said just learning as we go

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He only has one hole to go through is when the alignment aren't doing that great of a job or something.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And like, you walk me through this one. I think it's something that...

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, I think you're on the right track. And it might even be like a play call specific as well, where there's only one specified hole that's trying to be blocked open.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, okay. So it was designed that way.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes, and I don't think it's anything to do with whoever he is or is

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in dating as well and how she feels about that sort of stuff.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, in this case, what do you think he's into?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like in that respect, if we're talking about that, I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know if you've ever talked to my guess is probably humiliation sort of

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

things.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So just just a wild guess.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

What he's all the receiving end of this.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I could see that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

OK.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's the one here there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I think it's a winding issue thing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I'm then finally this one the announcer said.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And again, I don't have context on what the hell he was talking about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I apologize.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, we'll try to figure it out anyway.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He says, I want to be one of the eight men in the box.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh boy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And that one really like hurt my ears up a little bit.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So that's a far enough.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

A ball.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You listen to these games different than most people.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughing)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I'm just curious.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- There is a box in football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- And there do happen to be men in that box.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I think in this case, that football.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

There can be up to eight, yes.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- It's usually how many defenders are in that box,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which is within a few yards of the line of scrimmage.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Oh, I got you okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- In the middle there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- So short.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Like towards the line, I'm in a game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

A lot of these are trenches as they call it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yes, exactly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Now that makes sense.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So that's all I got.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'll try to have more context if any of these things pop up in the future.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That'd be beautiful.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, that's a great, that's a great segment.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I love it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, thank you.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm learning a lot.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Good.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Good.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's what we're here for.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We want to share our knowledge of football and our love of football with the greater population.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I appreciate you bringing these things and being so vulnerable.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, saying that you don't know things and bringing that to the forefoot.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it's not my forte, but I'm trying to work on it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

No, I appreciate that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I appreciate that as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So with that being said, how about we get into our best and worst to wrap this up?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That sounds good to me.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Did you want to go first?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I also wanted to talk a little bit about just a little thing that I found out

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

about Troy Brown and Terry Glenn before we get into that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And it was basically, well, Terry Glenn, I don't know if he says things to be a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

brace of or not, but it was just interesting to the little sound bites that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like, you know, I found, but when after the game, he was talking about braiding

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and they were like, you know, how do you think he did or whatever?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And he said he's young and wants to prove himself.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's an advantage for us.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He might not have tried some of the plays that he did if he was eight or nine

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

years in. I was wondering, is that a shot a drew?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, it's I don't think he would say that, but it just kind of came off as

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like you're kind of throwing them on the bus a little bit.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think it was more is like, he's too stupid to know better is what it feels

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

like.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay. Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was a drag.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You try to say the right thing and it came off a little bit weird.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Um, and then the other thing that I thought was funny was that apparently

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Terry went through his, uh, you know, Tom Brady's first touchdown pass, the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

football into the stands for the game so that he was actually a little bit annoyed by that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He would have given the football to Brady.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Of course he would.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So it's true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He's you both personalities there.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But yeah, that's the worst here.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, we've talked quite a bit about everything.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I would say one thing that we did not talk about is Antoine Smith didn't have a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

great game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think he had like 30 or 40 yards rushing on everybody.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He didn't have a touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

was in the third was on the goal line.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And, you know, he was running up the middle basically.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And Junior say out, it was one of those

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that he timed perfectly like you were talking about.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- And he just pops Antoine Smith.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- He took his fucking head off.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, and he falls back like two or three yards.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then somehow ducks under a couple of people flying out

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and then dives for the touchdown.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, it doesn't fall over on that sail hit,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

which I don't know if it ever happened.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Like did you see sales reaction?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It was like, how the hell did that guy knock?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, yeah, he was celebrating

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that he tackled over two yard loss

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and he ended up scoring touchdown from it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yeah, no, that was pretty badass.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Again, that was actually gonna be my best as well.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Just so you know.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Oh really?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's what, and then the, well, I mean,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that I guess that my second best was

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Lydanian's fumble recovered by Brian Cox,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

it's because fuck him.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And my worst is, and I'm gonna have to change this one

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

because it was everything that Lee Johnson did,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but now that we used that,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he made "Breaky the Hero" that he is,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I'm gonna, I got no worst.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I love it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I always look on the bright side.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's beautiful.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I like it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- My best was, well, I guess I'm gonna switch it up

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

to an observation that I noticed,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that Doug Floody throwing a football to Tim Dwight,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

that has got to be the shortest connection

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

in the history of football, correct?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Do you mean height-wise?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Yes, they're both five-nine.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And I can't think of, unless Drew Brees is,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

but no, we already used this attitude,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Brees is super tall.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Kyle or Murray may be throwing to some--

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Russell Wilson is what, five-eleven I think, so.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, yeah, he's holding on six feet.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I mean, I mean,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Two five nine, two five nine white guys

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

connecting on a successful forward pass in the NFL in 2001,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I think is a highlight in anybody's book.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I have no commentary.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't know what, what, I mean, I don't even know

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

what to say about that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But I, you know, I have no comment on height.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I have no comment on, you know, I just, I, um,

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It's just something that you don't see very often.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You don't see it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We got the...

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It isn't an anomaly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We can agree that it isn't an anomaly.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I'll take that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I like that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Okay.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That was my best just being able to see that.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And my worst is watching the Chargers kickoff team celebrating as a winner.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

if they've won the game, making a tackle on a kickoff that got returned back to the 35

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

year old line. It's just so typical charges. And I was like getting pissed off that the

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Patriots are doing sack dance on your field at the end of the game after beating you when

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

they should love. Oh, yeah, that is classic. It's just, you know, it was an idea game that

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

He was also like riding the bike for like half the game.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I feel like I know that was two thousand.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it was 2007 where he went in and him in.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I have the quarterback.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Well, I think it was Phil

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

he, you know, Lydanian Thomas, a game with the Chargers and the Patriots ended pretty

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

much the same way.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

It sure did.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So yeah, but I think this is a quality game so far on our list of games to watch.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

This is probably number one for me of the ones we've watched so far.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I would definitely recommend viewing it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I mean, I think this goes on the board of should watch.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Hey, put it up.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

But, you know, if you find a copy, even with commercials, just sit through the early 2000s.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They were interesting, weren't they?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

They're fantastic.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Cedric the entertainer, baby.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Someone butled.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Oh, yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

By shaking them up by dancing because he's got a girl in his living room.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then once he opens it, it sprays in her face.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

That's right.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

And then I remember a few other Cedric commercials.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So hopefully we get to see those.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right. Well, I think that about wraps it up for week five of the 2001 season. Thanks

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

for being here, Mike. It was a joy to share this with you.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Yeah, it was really fun. Like I said, I'm trying to be more vulnerable and open up and just

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

say, "You know what, man? I appreciate you as a human being." And while my time could

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

be used for other things. It's not the worst thing in the world.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I agree. Yeah. And it's always a pleasure to be able to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

to shoot the shit with you. So.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right. See, you went genuine. I was kind of I veered off a

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

little bit about it. But yeah, I disagree. It felt genuine to me.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

So I'll take it. Not.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

All right. Well, until next week, what is next week?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

I don't even know. And what are we looking forward to? Do you want to

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

know? I don't want to know. You know, I'll get off.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

and you can tell them, but I'm done.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughs)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- The pages go visit the Indianapolis Colts.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- God damn it.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Unless we got like forward to.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The Colts that they blew the doors off recently.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

The week before. - That's true.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- The week before.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I mean, is Pete Manning playing or?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Do you want me to tell you?

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- No, I don't!

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

You pass the test, buddy.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughs)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- I got you, yes he is playing.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- No, fuck.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

(laughs)

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

Alright, that'll do it for this episode.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

We'll see everybody next week if you're still with us.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Alright, sounds good.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

See you later.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Bye.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

- Bye.

2001 Week 5: Patriots vs Chargers

[buzzing]

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