2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

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The eldest brothers welcome the Vikings to town minus Greg, who's off galavanting yet again. But Andy and Steve have plenty to talk about, including:

(21:30) The Love Boat scandal
(24:30) Fred Smoot's Reddit AMA
(35:00) Your weekly Troy Brown cheerleading section
(40:00) Andy outs himself...as a reader
(51:00) Randy Moss talk
(56:00) A Randy Moss/Troy Brown conspiracy is created
(1:04:00) The inevitable Shit on Greg segment
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New England Patriots

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Sunday November 24, 2002

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Episode Transcript

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

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you have the choice not to.

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My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really,

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they're just being stupid.

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You still want to listen?

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Go right ahead.

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I am not your mother.

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Welcome back, everybody.

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So the page is Dinesy podcast like to extend a especially warm welcome to my brother Steven

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Who decided to join us this week?

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Hey, Andy because he decided to fuck off to

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vacation somewhere

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Where do you think Greg does on vacation?

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Fat shitload of nothing

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He hates doing nothing though

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He's probably sitting there right now being like, you know shit. I should have gone on the podcast

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I sure brought my my convocation with me

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But he did break because he's still up north and last week we recorded

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The episode yeah when when he and I were together so we have it

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That sounds about right for Greg taking like five weeks off. Yeah, exactly

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Including from the podcast. Yep

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speaking of

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Taking time off this week is

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No, not the bye week. I didn't really work. No, I was trying to figure out how to integrate that. I don't know so you could have be an

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vacation. I think

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Dante call pepper where she was

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Like not gonna still reach now. Not your not your best apparently I'm still on vacation to you. How about that?

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Yeah, so this is as I've alluded to badly a few times the Viking is coming to town 2002 week 12

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week Tom Brady

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I feel like we never play the Vikings. This is one of the teams that you just don't see.

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It's yeah, it's true. I was thinking that when I was watching, like, how many games

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could there possibly be against the Vikings? Can't even think of another Vikings game.

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I can think of one. Oh, not this. I think this is before the Tom Brady era, the one

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I'm thinking of where the Vikings had the best run defense. The Patriots came out

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Let's look at it.

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I don't know.

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So I got nothing.

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Let's see.

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Um, Minnesota Vikings.

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Let's go to the Patriots dynasty info.

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Yeah.

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Pages that I've ever.

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Slash search slash games.

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Patriots have played the Vikings.

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Six times.

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What?

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Including 2000.

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So the year before we started doing this.

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They played them.

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And then this year no two and then you're every four years.

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So that makes sense.

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So six or 10, 2010, 2010 to any 14, 2018.

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Oh, I remember 2018, not this past season, the season before.

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Yeah, I don't remember this at all.

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I remember games have been closed.

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You remember Kirk cousins?

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Nope.

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I mean, I remember when he was in the Redskins.

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Yeah, no, I remember.

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I don't remember the game because the Patriots

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unleashed their--

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There's so many names for it, like the Amoeba defense,

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where nobody lines up like with their hand down

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on the ground.

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and they were just kind of milling around so the and the offense can't figure out

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who's rushing

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and they did it against Kirk Cousins and he had no answer for it because that was

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the year I think Adam

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Thelen was like leading the league and touchdown receptions and he had like

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one catch in that game or something ridiculous you know typical Patriots game

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like I'm not debating that they played it I just don't remember this at all

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I don't remember any other Vikings game I don't even remember this one

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no I don't remember this one at all

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and those big names in this too

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What was, what's your Lombardi score?

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Yeah, three, maybe.

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Yeah, I'm on a three, two and three quarters.

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I don't even know if it's quite a three, because the first half is great.

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First half is where the Patriots scored all the points and the second half is

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where the Vikings tried to do that.

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I mean, the first three drives where they scored them all.

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But yeah, I mean, if you watch, yeah, like the second quarter, mainly.

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That was exciting.

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But, uh, yeah.

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Let's talk about the score.

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They scored it and Patre's 24 Viking 17.

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The Patre's win this one.

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Improved to six and five.

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And the Vikings would drop to, I think it was three and eight

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on the season.

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Yeah.

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Which for a team-- let's talk about these Vikings.

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There were some big names on this team for them to be three

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and eight.

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I only got one big name, Randy Moss.

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Michael Bennett.

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I don't remember the state at all.

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I had no idea who this dude was.

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- Really, I remember him, 'cause he was...

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- They said he was leading the league

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and rushing at this point, and I don't know.

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- Right, who?

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- Yeah, see how it'll see Hawkes guy?

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- No, right, yeah.

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I didn't even put that together, Jesus.

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- That's also what I was like, first thought.

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I was like, is he related to the Bennett brothers?

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- He can't be.

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I don't know.

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- I don't know either.

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I'm gonna say no.

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And does their parents were that sick and twisted that they named two of their sons,

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Michael, who and the other one, not Michael.

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So yeah, I don't think it was.

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But I mean, Dante, call pepper, rainy moss that connection alone is in like every

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late nineties, early 2000s highlight real video you ever see, right?

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Like rainy moss catching deep bombs from Dante, call pepper.

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Sure sure because I mean this Vikings team was this the same one that basically in

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One of these year

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98 all right. Well, it's a little further away. They went 15 and one

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And then lost in the playoffs to I think you Michael Vick Falcon you think I'm an actor

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This is before Michael Vick we just saw Mike Vick last week or last year

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Make his debut. That's true. Yeah, so who is oh is the dirty bird packers

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Oh, Falcons. That's who it was.

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Oh, yeah.

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Trim all Williams.

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Yeah, but this team was, I think, was that his 1998 was, yeah, that was Randy Moss's rookie

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year. And he had, he just went off. 1,300 yards, 17 touchdowns. Fucking ridiculous.

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Randy Moss, I mean, like, yeah.

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What you're gonna do on the other side when you catch the ball, you know, your butt hole

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would pucker up.

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Oh, my God. Yeah.

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He was one of those guys that was like, yeah,

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like watching Barry Sanders or someone like that,

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or Michael Vick.

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- Well, I had just watched the hockey

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in the basketball right before this game.

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So it's like when you're clinging to a one goal lead,

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you know, and they're passing around your offensive,

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in their offensive zone, you're just like holding on.

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That's what it was like when Randy Moss

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was catching the ball in the open field.

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- Yeah, exactly.

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But as good as this team was on paper,

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I mean, the Vikings had, I think Randy Moss went to the Pro Bowl,

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as did Michael Band the running back.

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Uh, call Pepper through for almost 4,000 yards, 18 touchdowns,

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23 interceptions. Uh, Michael Bandit ran for almost 1300 yards and five touchdowns.

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And Randy Moss had 1300 yards receiving and seven touchdowns,

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which like on paper, that sounds really good.

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Those are some solid stats. Yeah.

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I think though the reason that they were had such a good stats in the three and eight was because they couldn't stop turning the ball over.

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It feels like the modern day jets, you know?

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Or the, you know, Brett Favre led Packers.

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Exactly.

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He's making the Pro Bowl throwing more interceptions and touchdowns because he sucks.

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But, um,

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Well, they mentioned Brett Favre and the Packers a couple of times in this game.

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I guess the Vikings had just beat Brett Favre.

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Yeah, the week before.

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Did you look up that game?

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I didn't.

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Did you?

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I just did look it up like how Brett Favre did.

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I think he threw like three interceptions in that game.

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That's not great.

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So they beat him 31 21.

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In Minnesota and from what they were talking about, it sounded like.

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The Packers couldn't stop or any moss.

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And the Vikings defensive line gave Brett fire a ton of trouble

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Which yeah through three interceptions and telling you how many times he was sacked

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Probably a lot and only two for ten

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And then they were talking up the

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Tampa Bay game next week where I was like right after this game. It was the Tampa Bay

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Brett and

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Yeah, cuz this game was on Fox. So obviously Fox was big into the

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The NFC and it was the the

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Whoever won that game would have the best record in the NFL. So it was a war in sap in the Buccaneers

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against

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Brett Favre and the Packers any guesses on how many interceptions he threw in that game three four

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Yeah

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21 7 I actually wrote down that this game feels like a prolonged ad for the Packers Bucks game

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Yeah, they're different

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It had a little break

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Wild Wild West

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32nd video yeah, and then at the end they had another one that was like

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Because the commentators weren't the 18 me there was Kenny Albert and Tim Green

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And the only reason I recognize named Tim Green is because that was a childhood friend of mine

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Yes, yeah, Timmy Green

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But they weren't

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Good

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But they also weren't worth my time to write down anything they said

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Except for when they were going into because they you they did they had like a couple like 30 second

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Promos I guess for the coming game and it sounded like cuz at the end they were talking about who made them

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And they would give them all this credit and I thought I don't think I'd want that credit if I had made those

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But the first one was like a Western one the second was like a supposed to be like an old school monster movie

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And it was just like clips of both teams but set to like old school horror movie

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Music and I

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Think the commentator was supposed to like talk over but they didn't and so it was just

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unbelievably awkward

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Because like and because you could tell that like they were supposedly into it because

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Tim green was like the game coming up next reminds me of a monster movie and then they like cut into the clip and then he just sat there

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Didn't say anything

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Is that where they like circled Lauren sapph is like oh, he's scary right at the end. Yeah. Yeah

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Doing is like he was yelling because he's got a sack of breath hours. Yeah, like oh look at that. That's a monster face. I

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Had some other things. I want to talk about the commentators. All right. Yeah, let's get into it

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I like this. I'm rubbing off on you.

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Well, I don't know if this is them. I think this is more of the media as a whole,

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but it's like, I wrote down there's a lot of talk about Glovegate going on.

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Oh my god.

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Because I guess at this time, people were dissecting Tom Brady's performance with

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and without gloves.

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Yeah, so I was actually going to look that up in the globe and then I thought, you know what?

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I've been driving more this week than I have normally.

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And so I've had, I tried to get back into sports talk radio and I couldn't do it.

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I'm like, I can't, I can't do that to myself for my mental health.

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So I didn't go back and you'll be absolutely right.

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They talked a ton about Brady's cause, because last week against the Raiders,

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they were talking about it about how he was wearing them on his throwing hand.

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And he started the game without wearing it.

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then he put it on in the second half and he played better and he had it on this game

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and he started off really good.

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I just like that.

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I don't even think that was ever a thing though, you know, I've never thought about

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Tom Brady's performance with him without gloves.

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I've certainly talked about it in weather, you know, yeah, you know, who has it.

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That shit just has died out.

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You know what else hasn't talked about it?

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Everybody fucking Brady.

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Like because they were like, oh, but Tom Brady says it.

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It doesn't matter.

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But maybe it does because he just threw a touchdown.

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Like no, it doesn't matter.

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I'm gonna tell you right now.

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Knowing what's coming.

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It doesn't matter.

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They also insinuated that Richard

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seemed more faked an injury to get a timeout when he didn't

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play another snap in the game, which was fucked up.

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Oh, that's right.

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He didn't do you think?

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Yeah, because the Vikings are all about no huddle in the second half.

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And he got hurt.

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And then they're like, oh, you know, sometimes when you see that, it's faking it.

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Yeah.

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And it was also the other guy who was down was, um, lawyer,

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Malloy, who like legit left the game in the end of the first half, like

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due to injury and he got lit up on that play too.

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Cause he had an Antoine Harris sighting, which was awesome.

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Shout out to Twan.

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Yeah.

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Antoine Harris,

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a rally to a career.

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I've actually had it on there from Raleigh.

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I did.

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Yeah.

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Oh, so in the head of the little bio.

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That's when we got subbed in.

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But speaking of Richard Seymour, I want to bring this up because we, I don't think

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we touched on it last week, but he, one of the few highlights from the week before

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was that he, he blocked a field goal.

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And then he did it again this week.

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And this is like no gimmicks of it.

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Not, not like you see, uh, who was it?

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Like Cassius Marshall and the fucking name was jumping over the, the center to get the block.

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That's James Collins. But yeah, oh, Jamie Collins did it too.

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I think cash the market.

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You may have someone like that.

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Yeah.

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Until they outlawed that.

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Um, but no, this was just like him getting stuck in there,

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getting his massive frame straight up and putting upon.

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And I'm pretty sure there's more than these two.

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I can remember a few.

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So I'm wondering, has there ever been someone better at blocking field goals?

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I mean, it's got to be.

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Is that a time to go block leader?

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That's how you guessed that.

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Oh, Akim Elozhawan with 3,830 blocks.

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- I'm gonna say that doesn't quite work.

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- It'd be fair.

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Gary Anderson did like barely kick it above the line, no.

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- Yeah, oh yeah, this is,

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fucking Gary Anderson.

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Probably towards the end of his career, I have to thank.

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Right?

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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He looked like he was playing in the 1950s

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with that single bar face mask way low.

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Yeah, so he's like half his forehead.

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Yeah, just the one.

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At that point, it's like, dude, just take it off.

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Like you don't need a face mask.

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It's not gonna do anything.

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Probably more harm than good.

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But he only played till 2004.

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You wanna guess when he started kicking field goals?

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74.

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Jesus, no.

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It's not 100.

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The year before I was born 1982.

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- Cheese.

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- So I played 13 years since I kicked her.

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- And I just looked it up, Ted Hendricks.

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- That's not true.

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- 10 punt blocks and 14 kick blocks.

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- Holy shit.

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- Yes.

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- In 1974 he had seven combined blocks.

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That's insane.

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- Cool Lord.

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- When did he play?

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Did he tell you what years?

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- Was this back in like the 50s?

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I mean, it's 74 so probably, you know, 1969 to 1983.

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Oh, by the way, Gary just didn't play for 23 years, not 13.

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It was 13 with the Steelers before he moved on.

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That's bananas.

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All right, well, I guess it's not.

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Not Richard Seymour.

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Yeah, I'm going through this top list.

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He's not on here, bud.

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Sorry.

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Well, I guess blocking kicks was easier.

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Julius Peppers has 12 field goals on a PAT.

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Damn, I didn't know.

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I mean, it makes sense.

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True.

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The peppers is massive.

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Still, I wouldn't have expected other teams to put those caliber guys on special teams

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like you do with like about speaking a turnover.

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So how about this new so Viking's team fumble city.

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So they came into like this is this is just like a great team to watch.

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I think they came into the game having the top ranked rushing offense, which

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or the 2002 page of defense should be a bad sign.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they've had other team room for 200 yards with not

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the time.

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They had the third ranked offense overall.

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But they also had the 31st ranked defense.

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Not good.

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They were also the most penalized team in the league,

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averaging nine penalties a game.

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I don't think they quite got that high in this game, did they?

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They were on a good pace, but they've cropped it.

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They had eight penalties for 74 yards.

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So, bow right, you're almost average.

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They also were the worst team in the NFL

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in turnover differential.

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Coming into the game, it was minus 16.

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In 11 games.

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- That's pretty good.

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- Maybe 10 games, depending on, yeah,

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'cause they were three and seven.

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So yeah, in 10 games, they had a minus 16.

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So they were almost minus two every game.

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In this one, they were worse than that.

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They had four fumbles over the last three.

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And a block field goal.

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And a block field goal, which--

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I mean, they had three not--

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three fumbles and then not two fumbles

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in the field goal block before like mid-second goal.

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Yeah, by the end of the first half--

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so basically, the way the game went

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is the Vikings would drive straight down the field

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and then fuck something up.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So they got the ball to start.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

First it drives right down the field,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

get inside the New England 10-yard line

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and then Dante Culpepper pulls what I would

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

generously say as a Drew Bledsoe.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And they're trying to do a screen that gets blown up.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he just backpedals straight backwards for 14 yards

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and then throws it out of bounds,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but because he's still in the tackle box,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

it's intentional grounding.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's been throwing towards anybody.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So that backed him out of,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

it turned into a long field goal.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- There was a weird column that though,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

where they put it,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

to put the ball where he threw it from,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I suppose, 10 yards.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I didn't know that's the thing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, it's either 10 yards or,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Really?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, or where it was from, whichever is further back,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which is crazy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But then, so that field goal blocked

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

because it's now like a like 46 or 48 yard or something

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like that instead of what would have been a chip shot.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Um, so the page to get the ball back drives right down Brady,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

those types of four.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then Minnesota,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

puns it New England gets the ball back and drive all the way.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Again, another four a touchdown from Brady.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then call pepper gets the ball misses Randy Moss deep,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like really badly misses him by like 10 yards, which I think is hard to do.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

hard to do with Rainy Moss just by the fact that's what you're supposed to do with Rainy

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Moss.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, just throw it with them 10 yards.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Some by 10 yards.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he must have missed some by 20.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Exactly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And so it's third and long because Minnesota actually started the drive off, fall starting

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

twice.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

In a row.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

In a row.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which they would do again later in the game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's towards the end of the game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That'll have it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And Cole Pepper tries to, I don't think it's supposed to be a QB draw, but he was, he was

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

doing a lot of running in this game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he dropped back in the middle of the field open up.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he tried to take off, but he dropped the ball where he got it knocked out of his hand.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Pages recover and it turned around.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brady throws his third touchdown.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We're basically like 10 minutes into the, we're like five minutes into the second quarter

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

of this point.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Pages throws another touchdown to Troy Brown this time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So now it's 21 nothing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Mike Tyson's over there booking love boats. He's like get me out of here

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Exactly

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think it wasn't either coach of the team. Where was the loveboat? I don't remember

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't eat honestly. I don't even know what the love boat is. I just know that really if I can say I'm gonna

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'll pissed off Steven. Oh Fred Smoot. Oh 2005. I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Don't think I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Don't think you boy. Oh no, he was I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I was so sick of Mike Tyson my head was loved though. Yeah, and this actually according to Wikipedia

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which led to the firing of head coach Mike Tyson was replaced by Brad Childress

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Who would lead the team to the 2009 NFC Championship game? I don't get it. What do they do?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's on a boat and go like in October in 2005

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What happened is so this is October right so middle of the season

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right September October 2005 and the alleged sex party occurred on Lake Minnetonka with

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

17 key members of the Minnesota Viking football team they couldn't do a little titty kaka

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Including and I will list these Dante call pepper

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All-time name player Fred Smoot

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Mowel de Moore probably also on that list Pat Williams bright McKinney Nate Burles and Ralph Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Jermaine Wiggins. No shit our boy. What?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We're gonna have to we're gonna have to come back to that. I think it's some point

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Troy Williamson Travis Taylor Kevin Williams lance Johnson mo Williams and will he offered we see mo Williams in this game

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This is also Brian McKinney's like first start

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There's definitely a year. Yeah, cuz I had some notes on him too. Well, got to him and mo Williams

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think was the leading rush of this year to at least with touchdown. Yeah, he was the uh the touchdown back

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He was the guy that you hated if you were in Phoenix. I wasn't anything yet

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So here's what happened two house boats were rented and some but not all of the players performed sexual acts in front of crew members

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

prostitutes from Atlanta, Florida will flown in for the party in order to perform the sex acts

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's gonna be 90 people on the two boats

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

90 people on two boats and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Smoot later estimated that they were a hundred women present

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

An anonymous former player of the Minnesota Vikings claim that this is not the first time such an incident happened

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The scandal sometimes been referred to as a love boat scandal after the television program

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

or as a "smoot boat scandal" in the news.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

[laughs]

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Allegedly photographs were taken at the party showing people engaging in sexual intercourse

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

or the players were charged with misdemeanors related to the events.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Later commentators pointed to the scandal as a key event in the history of the team

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which led to the firing of head coach Mike Tice.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Whoops.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

[laughs]

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

In a June 2013, Reddit asked me anything for a thread.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fred Smoot did one about the love boat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And he's talking about Brian McKinney,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

placing a naked woman on the bar before, kind of lingers on her in front of the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

crew, he guessed.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He referred this act as running through the orca patch.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Ocrab patch.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, my goodness.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Smoot was the alleged ringleader of the entire operation.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He said to have been the one who hired the boats for the crews.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

uh... smooth whoever is not denied that he was on the boat that night

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

smooth allegedly held a double-headed dildo inserted into the vagina's of two

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

women who are laying on the floor in the lounge area

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

after one woman woman left he continued to

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

quote unquote manipulate the dildo

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

inside the other woman in front of the crew

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

i need to read that

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

friend suit a_m_a_

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

yeah i think if we can find it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh yeah, it's right there to quick Google.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, it is.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right, we'll have to link this in the--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What's the love bow worth it?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's the first one.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

[LAUGHING]

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Man, everybody asks you something about that damn boat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No shit, buddy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

[LAUGHING]

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know if I'd say it was worth it,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but I wouldn't change Anthony my past.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

[LAUGHING]

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, man.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This guy is--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but Jermaine Wiggins, wiggy, was in there.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I did not even really played for the Vikings.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, I think you left the,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the pages this current season.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like after 2000.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, should have stuck around

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

when it comes to having more rings.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, and steady ended up on the love boat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The smooth boat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- The smooth boat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Smooth, smooth, all aboard.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

(laughing)

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Gone to the Orkra patch later.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- The Okra patch, the Orkra.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Whatever.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Whole different meaning.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Some sort of like squid or something, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

OK, no.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

OK, it's like a--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm not to Google that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't get it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Doesn't look like a pussy at all.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How are you running through?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

OK, Padra.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe we should ask your main wiggens.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, at least probably not enough.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

about to come on

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

speaking of uh... michael bennett

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

go back to the game is his turn to fuck up the storm second

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

quarter

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and at this point minnesota realizes

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

they have to abandon their game plan so they're in the no-huddle

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which apparently is one of the reasons they were able to beat

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

greek and we before

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

run the no-huddle and it actually worked

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

pretty well in this game

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

they started running it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

four drives into the second quarter, because they're already down three touchdowns,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

drive straight down the field into like the new in the red zone yet again.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This time, Michael Bennett is one of the fumbles doing the recovers.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And these were all like really nonchalant fumbles too.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like I didn't catch them in real time until the Patriots players were like

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

piling on the ground pointing in their direction. Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So then

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Pages don't do anything.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Viking get the ball back.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And this time it is Randy Moss's turn to get as the action where he

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

fumbles newing the recovers.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And that was almost the end of the half three three turnovers in that one

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

one quarter.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Pages couldn't capitalize again, even though they were pretty good field

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

position.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They go three and out and they're in like that area of the field where

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

ballot checkers likes to go for it anyway.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Regardless of what it is because it's too far for a field goal not worth hunting

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But Brady gets sacked on fourth down so that didn't work the way they expected and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Then right the end and this is like with

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like two minutes left. So Minnesota gets the ball back

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think under two minutes and they drive straight down the field again this time actually score a touchdown pass

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Cold pepper so we go going to halftime at twenty one seven. So if you're gonna watch the game, you could just stop it there

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

probably yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I was like, another.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I'll put the girls on the touch.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Second half was two.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I call.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Everyone throws another touchdown and then the team's true field goal.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Sorry, I was really busy reading the Fred.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Food at AMA.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Nothing really juicy in there.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I didn't even see the scandals comment.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, it was right at the top.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Wasn't that first comment right on that same, like when the Patriots kind of got sacked on.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The and that driver the very end of the first half. Yeah, do you see Chris Hovin talking shit to Brady?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Down 21 nothing

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Bro and apparently he had gotten fined the week before for

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Talking about that for a sec like bro read the room. I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're you're fucking

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

three and seven

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're committing most penalties and in the NFL you're losing

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the turnover battle they had they came in the game with 30 turnovers and so I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

wrote now they have 31 turnovers worse than the NFL they had to cross that out

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and had put 32 turnovers and had to cross that out and put 30 so we had 33 turnovers

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I remember him I don't really wait 2000 to 2009 he looked very familiar yeah he

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

maybe I'm just confusing him with little Romanowski he's like a poor man's

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Roman house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he was quality. But this guy although he did say he played at

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The college BC yeah with Danny and Woody you not quite fit you played on the end of Woody was a center

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But apparently they used to go at it in practice back in college

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There was one comment to about

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The commentators made and I don't know if you picked up on

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

With them being wrong again Andy God. Oh, yeah, what are they wrong about? They were talking about Troy Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And they were wrong about Brown. Yeah, of course

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're like, oh what a great duty is he's like oh, it's like he's preparing for life at football

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He wants to be a broadcaster which

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What wrong about I said he's he's never gonna coach. He says you consider coaching, but there's too many long hours

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like whoops whoops, it's like he changed his mind on that one, huh?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Can't stay away, baby happens to the best of us. So do you have a?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There was a Adrian Clem sighting. Oh, yeah, because the right time with two ends. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He turned out to be pretty good, right? I don't think so. I thought you did. I thought you excited on Super Bowls and stuff

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, I don't I don't think he was kind of like mill around better than Kenyatta Jones

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm so five years with the Patriots appearing in 26 games at 10 starts. Maybe I just like them cuz he has a great last name

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, there's a bakery in

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Windham you're sure it's named after him

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, we'll say this fuck it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe he's named after the baker who knows he's not born in England California, so probably not you know you don't know that that's true. I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Don't know. I don't think people win them would name their bakery after a black guy

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're not wrong. It's very conservative. Yes

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But yeah, that's that enough. It's about it I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I never know here. It took me forever like way longer than you think to realize the Viking helmets were horns.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I realize this now.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Okay, so you're not saying you realize it today?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, but within the last couple years.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Really?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What did you think they were?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I had no idea that they're just like Nike swoosh's.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, Steve.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I didn't quite get it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I just thought they were kind of dumb helmets.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Now that I realize their horns, I think they're a lot cooler.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, man.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I might be about to blow your mind.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But you know, that's what was on the Rams helmet.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Those are horns.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I got that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And that's how it's going to sense me.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe not when we were watching the Super Bowls, but by the time the second

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Rams Super Bowl came around, I'd figured that out.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, that's good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So you're, uh, I guess you're learning.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All the learnings are I think realizing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, do you, uh, what are the odds that Greg knows this?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Hmm.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He wouldn't know it, but he would shit on me pretending that I he already knew it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and calling me a fucking idiot for not knowing it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And in his back of his mind, he'd be like, fuck, those are horns.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That makes so much sense.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, speaking of stupid headwear, I think when we get Greg back on, we need

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

to find out an update on his hat that he bought.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, the chicken wing hat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- I'm trying to get my friends to place a bet

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

on the chicken wing hat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- What kind of thing?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Loser has to buy a pair of Zubaz or the chicken wing hat.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're debating the merits of Singletary versus Zachmos

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

for fantasy this year, so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- One, one side.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- What happens if you're real fantasy this year?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, now, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, it would be a couple of games and then--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- So then what happens to fantasy?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Do you, whoever has got the most points wins?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Probably.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I haven't really thought about it at all.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- No, I'm in here.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Which is crazy, 'cause it starts in like three weeks.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Supposed to, yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

At least when we're recording this on the 20th of August,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but we'll see how that goes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- I'm in.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- I'm actually starting to--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Full on playoff Bruins and Celtics mode right now.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which is a weird time to be late August. Yeah, it sure is. It's just a weird time for all of it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I know this is it's a very strange. I don't know what'll make this year better though

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What's that if Troy Brown finds out who we are?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think I'm gonna say if Greg shows up next week with his fucking hat on

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That'll only be a marginal thing. I want to really move the needle here. I'm with you

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I am really like pressure Tanya to reach out to him on our behalf yet. I mean come on we not

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I think we probably should.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We'll have to lay the groundwork for that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We need to get some, we need to call in some favors,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

either do whatever we can.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Because, I mean, life isn't complete without Troy Brown in it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I know we've talked a lot about doing a brown zone, brown zone, browns.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Mm-hmm.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We should just do a brown zone, brown zone, brown and spend the whole thing talking about Troy Brown.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's how we get noticed.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know, we would actually probably get more content out of that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Then we what if we talk about the Cleveland Browns? Well Greg's thing was the Browns on Browns on Browns on Browns

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

While taking a shit doing on the toilet right? Yeah talking about Jim Brown and I guess that's probably the only other

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brown that's ever played for the no I looked it up

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There was like seven or eight of them really Jim Brown's the only real famous one. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I don't think we'd have a lot to talk about with them compared to talk about it. It's just not advancing my cause here

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, that will tell time. Yeah, we'll do a special episode with Troy the Browns on Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brown's on all the all the browns talking to Troy Brown about Troy Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, do you think you want to talk about himself though?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, but I do so

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, maybe wait whoa whoa whoa, I'm on to something here. What if you do Browns on Browns on Browns on Browns

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Hey, get Troy Brown on to talk about Jim Brown. I bet he'd love to talk about or

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Troy Brown on to talk about us talking about Jim Brown while we're all taking a shit. I don't know how many browns on Browns

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That is this brown on Browns on Browns on Browns on Brown Brown on Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then if we all wear brown it could be in Brown at the end yeah brown on Browns on Browns on Browns on Brown in Brown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't think I own any brown though. Yeah khakis maybe I don't compare myself with poop boom

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Trust you to take it so

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Now we don't have Greg here. I thought I'd be a good opportunity to actually talk about some more football instead of

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like if we've already covered the poop topic, which is usually where he goes. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I don't have any drug stories. So I was reading this week because I didn't have access to television

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But you know access to a TV at the beginning of the week. Yeah, I'm not I was up in

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, it's like a third world country

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Second world country. Yeah, they have toilets, but it'll flush you know, I mean

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's a second world country

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

According to our father that's your words to

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Okay, that's true laundry in the kitchen. What are they doing? Fridges the size of a keg raider

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Doesn't even go to my nipples. How am I gonna fit my 30 rack in there? That's what I'm saying. They don't have 30 racks or pickup trucks

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What are they doing? Oh fucking country sub Venus throw all of Europe in there probably I drink their beer warm and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Their coffees garbage. Yeah, so let's say I was in England this week, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They didn't have real television.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I was reading a book, a war room by Michael Holly, who is probably my favorite Boston sports

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

guy because he's like the only one that succeeded in the industry without being a hot take artist,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which I am very impressed.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's a thoughtful dude, doesn't rely on the hot takes on stuff.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I like Mike Reese, but he's not really like an opinion guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Exactly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And Michael Holly is, but he's like measured opinion.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So it's actually, he's like the voice of reason and all these talk shows.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I like him for that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Um, but he wrote this book.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's about the legacy of Bill Belichick in the art of building the perfect team.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Written in 2011, I believe it was.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So you could probably rewrite this a whole second time, but based the same

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

stuff, but it's cooler because it's like behind the scenes about how Bill

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'll check like builds a team, runs a team.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I actually just got to the part about,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and by just got to, I'm like 10, 40 pages in.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Talking about the pages, one there, 2001 Super Bowl,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and now they're going in 2002.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I found some interesting tidbits

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

that I don't like what I found

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

if we hadn't been doing this.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I thought this would be a good time to share them.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But the first thing was--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Before you go on to this,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

can I just say I can't believe

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

you're outing yourself like this?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What as a reader?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

For the loser.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Everyone knows reading sort of fucking losers, Andy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

God.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know what?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

If you're the mom would be very proud of you.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, Andy reads all the time, Steve.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, but I'm not a fucking loser, mom.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

If you don't know by this point, after the website and the podcast

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and just listening to me talk for a season and a half that I'm a fucking nerd,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

that's on you, not me.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, I know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm not talking about you.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fucking.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So mom knows to Andy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, yeah, she's already known.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's why I'm the golden child.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Sure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Later.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, what did this stupid?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Don't say so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So hey, don't you call Michael Holly stupid.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We like him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Who's we?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're speaking for all of us now, huh?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, it's the royal way of saying for myself in the real term.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Um, so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The basic he was talking about, like,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

this is just after Super Bowl,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and it was kind of a happy accident they won.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And so he was asked how many players on the Super Bowl champs

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

would have to be replaced before you could call them

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

perennial championship threats.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He didn't hesitate about 20.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Ballachak coming off of the biggest upset,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

well, one of the biggest upsets in Super Bowl history,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

turns around, like, all right, so for this to continue,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How many people do you think you need to replace?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And like immediately it's like 20 give or take.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So you can kind of see that in this 2002 season, I think, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like you've...

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- It's not a lot of big changes, I don't think.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- On defense more than offense, I think.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right, like the front, the defensive line

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

has gone through a bunch of guys

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

'cause they can't stop the run.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They brought in Victor Green who hasn't played as

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like like they're they're two corners and two safes are the same

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Their receivers are the same except the addition of Dion

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They definitely turned the tie down position over

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, the line's pretty

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Is not great still I think like this juggle last week and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I thought they did a bit better this week, but both

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Tackle linebackers are pretty similar year to year. Yeah, but the tackles get played. Oh, I'm not saying they perform

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm just saying personnel. Oh, one to two thousand two. It's very similar to I mean we watch the Raiders

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Turn over ten people on defense, which is fun starters. Yeah, which is yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Their entire defense is new except for Woodson

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right so but basically this goes on to talk about how

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The reason they did as well as they did 2001 is because all the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like the guys that they took chances on hit

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So Bobby Hamilton hit Roman Viper hit right like all of these guys who are

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Who were supposed to be just like kind of like roll guys just kind of played out of their minds

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like rabble same same sort of they did their job is what you're saying

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You could say that but it was more than just doing their job like they actually like killed it. They did their job well. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So yeah, so everything I was starting a defensive end, but the problem is like those guys

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, I'm about to read be the book Andy. I don't god. I'm not gonna get secondhand loser from you

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Listen asshole. You are the second-hand loser. I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Can do that on my own

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't even help to be a loser. Thank you very much

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But basically the gist of it is, so I'll fucking read, is that guys like Anthony Pleasant and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Bobby Hamilton, that they brought in as kind of like one year stop gaps and killed it in

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

2001.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right at this point, we're kind of over the hill.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then the guys that they brought in this year that they tried to use as the guys like

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

that, like Victor Green, they realized not so great.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And the target, there's a story about, um, they brought him to Steve Martin, who was

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

supposed to be, I think, exactly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, that doesn't mean an actor.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Among other things, apparently he's also defensive tackle, but he was supposed to be like that

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

run stopping like space eating Vince Willfork type of guy in the middle.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yep.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And apparently he was so bad that they, like his technique was so bad, the Belichick would

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

put people like Bobby Hamilton and who was 40 pound lighter than him to show him the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

correct way to do things that guy still couldn't figure it out.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And so he got cut halfway through the season, which I think is probably why the beginning

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

of the season you saw those 200-yard games, because that guy couldn't get a shit to go.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And so it just kind of showed the, like how on the edge the Patriots were in these first

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

few seasons. And the fact that they wanted 2001 was basically

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

almost a fluke. Even though Belljack was building that system,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which eventually would turn into like, Oh, three and oh, four,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

which we'll see in the next 20 years. Right, right, right. But

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

at that time, winning in a one was just like blind luck almost.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But I think that can happen, right? The Giants, Joe Flacco,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, there's all sorts of fluke shit like that. That's true.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think it's a big part of its luck.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I think so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But I think the difference between them and this team

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

is that the Patriots, they get lucky here and there.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know, that you have like, you know,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

one against the Bills where was it?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Patton, they got knocked out, but he was touching the ball

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and he was touching the sideline.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So it was really, really nice.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You got lucky like that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

or maybe even the Edelman catch in the Super Bowl against the Falcons.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's like, yeah, you know, it's a good play, but it's still kind of lucky.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just the way to bounce everything.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It didn't hit the ground.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And, um, but the pages are able to put themselves in that position so many more

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

times just based on the foundation that they have.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They get you there and then luck gets you over the hump.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I think for a lot of teams, like that's what you almost have to bank on.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But the pages just continue to get to that point all the time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Eventually, there's like the luck will happen to them.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And when it does,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I've averages will win out yet.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, exactly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Same as the way that they draft, I think, too.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Do you can we bring this back to like something, you know, cooler?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How about this?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I have a snow.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But you got fine.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You can do your cool thing from the book, Andy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, this isn't from the book.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fuck it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'll give you a cool step.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's probably from the book.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, it's from this game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But I read it off the screen so you can fucking eat a dick.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Kevin Falk is the only player in the league of the seas, I assume,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

with rushing, receiving and kick return touchdown.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I guess that's cool. Pretty fucking cool.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Do you think Tom Brady is good at Madden?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Um, like how good is he at Madden?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's like, see, I was obviously he can read the defense like no other.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

See, well, I was officially going to dismiss that and say that he just doesn't play it at all.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But he probably doesn't have time for video games.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He brought us a read either because he actually does not read unless it's a scouting report.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He'll read a scouting report, but that's it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think if Tom Brady played Peyton Manning and Madden, who would win?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Has this ever been done?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think Tom Brady was playing Madden against each other.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Here's why I say I think it's Tom Brady.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

because Tom Brady was on the cover of Matt back in two or three years ago.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And because he was on the cover, I bet he learned how to play it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And because it's Tom Brady, he's not going to play something.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's not good at it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he will get good at Matt.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's on 18 and 12.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Cool.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

His long hair Tom Brady in 12.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Really, I don't remember.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And he's on PlayStation original NFL game day, 2003, baby.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I remember that one.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I didn't know it was on Madden 12.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, if this thing was legit, yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know that it was.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I thought.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Eighteen.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Um, I asked because I've been playing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's 2012, coincidentally, a college triple game with my friends.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I really fucking really fucking bad at it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

See, I got I can't I can't read a defense to save my content.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I just started to have the supposed to go to that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I throw interceptions all the time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't read a defense.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I just go, it's going to that guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's going to that guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I'm like half the time it works.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- You stare him down and stare him down.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yep.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- I don't read shit.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Am I one coworker?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The guy's going to be on next week.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's like, he played quarterback in high school.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's like, oh, yeah, I gotta read this.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm like, no, no.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This guy's getting the ball.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It says right in the place.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, that's why he's highlighted.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's why he's hit.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Which, going back to what we talked about for

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

why I play my games on easy because I'll rookie that that's a completion 90% of the time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's true. I get picked off. So Tom Brady is going to complete 80% of his passes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, what it was. One coworker we played Madden and he's like, don't play against each

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

other. I was like, no, I don't want to play against each other. And so he played as the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Patriots against the Jets on easy mode and just destroyed.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It just feels so good. I know that he got ragged on by things Greg and Connor at the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

time. But like, I don't play video games for the challenge. I play video games to cosplay

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

as a fucking superhero. Like, I'm doing shit that I can't do in real life.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I brought the whole box of beers to my room with me for this podcast, because I couldn't

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

walk away and get another one.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's some real forward thinking freeze. You know, I don't want to leave you by yourself,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Andy, although you probably could have just read out of your book to our audience. You

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know what? I'm gonna. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try find a way to have

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

people vote on this. But nobody does. Fuck it. Now I'm in the right here. Sure. I am.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I am bringing new information to our audience. You're sitting there fucking talking about

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

boxes of beers and how you suck at Madden and the best name in the whole game. Maybe even

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and Madden in 2002. No. He played in this game. He was there full back.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Was there a full back? I don't know who was it? Yeah, Jim Klein's

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

saucer. spelling for all of you out there. Hey, L E I N S A S S E R.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Hell yeah. He looks like he looks like a Klein saucer.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think that's exactly just a really fancy t set.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just the first Google image result becomes that is the best.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What is it?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Talk, walk me through it with your words.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's wearing a Vikings jersey with a nice patch.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And it looks like he's taking a shit by looking off to the right somehow.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's not looking right at the cane.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's looking off to the right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's taking a shit.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So it's almost like a candid photo.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, you can see like his teeth, his top row teeth, his gums.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like biting his lip and he's a lot of pleasure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- It's a lot of pleasure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- His face is all scrunched out.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like he's pooping.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- So not a pleasurable sort of thing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, full on uniform poop.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Nice.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- That's right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Oh, I have,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think we have criminally under talked about,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and that's a phrase that people say.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yes.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

in books they read it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

we have criminally under talked about

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

your boy michael dandy randy moths

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and i don't know if you've got this at the beginning of the game

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but it was almost like it because they had like the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the pregame a little bit the fox pregame

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and then which is awful

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

ends the same fox

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

that they're still and and it's not yet

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and it's just them talking over each other about

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and they have the robot of zucin

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How they had no innovation there?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, that's the NFL.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fox throw their money at them anyway.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's Fox.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They had like, you know, like after they cut to that, before they go to the actual

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

games, they have like, wait, wait, wait, before we get off this, before we get off this.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There was one innovation that they got rid of, which I really liked.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

When they'd score, like the, they would make that like sound and then score would change and like change to the colors of your team, you know, I don't remember that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It did it happen in this game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah. And I really remember it from the Super Bowl and in the Rams.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We go and add and take kicks that field goal and it makes that like sound like machine noise kind of sound.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, it's like.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know you talk about it. Subtle. Yeah. But I was just so

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

seated that sound with us winning and that's the only thing they took away

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and it left fucking all those fucks in the pregame show just talking over each

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

other. I left the robot and the robot, which mama Brown hates.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And so what we did like with a passion.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Uh, so what we did is when they were trying to, they had a contest to name that robot.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, really?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I submitted a lot of submissions to name it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Christine.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Didn't work.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Come on.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I got to name our robot, Christine.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's a pretty good name for a robot.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

if you're in like a horror movie.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's Fox bro.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But yeah, so back to my point.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They were just ending the pregame show

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and they were doing like the mic'd up around the league.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know, they did with this like the hype up huddle.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And they had our Blurady Moss.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Mike.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Ooh, they got some mosses coming out here, dog.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They got some big Super Bowl champion mosses coming out here.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Decorated in that blue and gray.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They got some Super Bowl MOS is coming out.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That he's in that blue and gray.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And for those who can't see it, he's doing the classic

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

where it's his gloves in his face mask.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like they're like fangs.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, like he's just got to like like velcroed onto the bottom

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

of the face mask.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's got his face like a little bit too high up.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So you can't really see him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Randy Moss is one of my favorite characters in the NFL.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think he's good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, for sure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I remember there was some and I'll look it up when we get to that point of

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like when he joins the team and we talk about him in depth.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

There was some article about him how he lived in like an over 50s, like

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

gated community.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just because he wasn't like a pirate or anything.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He liked the, like he got along with all the neighbors and like the, the,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like quietness of it all and everything.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like that's crazy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Cool. Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just like I misunderstood, dude.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I know he grew up in the brand of West Virginia.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

In the middle of nowhere.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, all of West Virginia is the middle of nowhere, buddy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's true.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Did you know West Virginia was the only state that was created during the Civil War?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Cool.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Did you read that in a book?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe I did.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I didn't read a book about the Civil War.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I may have made that up, though, actually.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It sounds good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I thought it was something where like most of Virginia wanted to be part of the south

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and that looks up for the western part of the state.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're like, no, if it doesn't make any sense now.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Why not?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's what's Virginia's where all the races are.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I suppose that's true.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

What is Virginia where most of the races are too?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, too many people up here in DC.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, well, they're all races as well.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're all races.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Anything sell to Connecticut's races, boy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're a southern and Amie Steve.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Uh huh.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, because people who am sure aren't racist at all.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's why that's why Wyndham's bakery named their named themselves after a black guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They don't call us the south of the north for nothing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Uh, being a Virginia though, um, a boy Randy Moss after the game, the like the first thing

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

they shot to you like after Brady took the knee to end it and everybody came in the field was

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Randy Moss talking to our one and only love of the podcast Troy Brown.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yes, I did so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm going to to put it out now. I'm the first one to put it on record.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think Troy Brown is responsible for getting Randy Moss on the Patriots.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'll believe it. I'll cosign that and they never played together though.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right. Doesn't matter.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're pretty close though. Yeah, they were overlapping.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I went to Troy Brown retire.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm also like five or six.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I'm gonna say in that general sanity.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Troy Brown, see that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's probably 2005 2007.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know, he's played one game in 2007, but had no stats.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So he was on the team with Randy Moss.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So that is lending more credence to here.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This would have been one game you had.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

six-punt returns.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And, and where did they both go to college?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Marshall. Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're both marshall guys.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

See, it's all coming together.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Steve, we're putting this together on the fly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, I love it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right. All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fucking a these, these from South Carolina, though,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Troy Brown, which is not too far.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's in the general vicinity of West Virginia.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So maybe if we get Troy Brown on, he'll get his best friend, Randy Moss, come with him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, no, that'll put us on the goddamn map.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't really care about that though.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, I just want Troy Brown on, but I'd love to talk to Randy Moss.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I bet he's a fan of the dude.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

For sure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Cause apparently like he knows his shit too.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like he was teaching right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The Patriots shit about how offense worked.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Bell check said that many times.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just not in this game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Because in this game, the first quarter, the first quarter of the game before

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

against the Packers, you had four catches for 67 yards and this gave

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

me had one for 17 and he didn't finish with many catches in general.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And Tyler, they they fumble.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They were all about stopping Randy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They were not going to let Randy beat him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They had a lot of safety at the time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They doubled them.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yep.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So what do you think his, uh, the stat line was?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You've had maybe like five catches

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yardage not more than pay it but a 120 yard one a couple tens of run off 15 yards catch

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Now how many yards do you have total?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's 15 times 5 Andy. I don't know I didn't come here to do math buddy. I don't know either

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He actually had eight catches for 92 yards

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's more than I thought yeah, he didn't like you impact the game like that though. No, he's a little

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, the longest of 19. This is the last play of the game where he just didn't do it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I was gonna say yeah, like he just at the comic. She was like well

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He knew it wasn't coming to him like yes still to be fair. What the fuck would I make you say it there?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm like there 40. Yeah, and it was fourth and ten and they threw it to Jim Klein's roster

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, like what he lined up in the slot

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like 20 seconds left

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They were just trying to get another first down and like clearly ran you heard that call in the huddle

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then just walk like they snap the ball and he walked off the line scrimmage. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Why is the fuck are you not just throwing me a goddamn jump ball?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Also, all the other plays before that were deep bombs to not rainy moss and even the commentator was like

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're gonna throw that in a double coverage.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You may as well throw it to Moss anyway.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He was shitin' all over Mike Tyson for those goals.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, this is not.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I don't know what you're doing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But I mean, you can't really complain too loudly about Mike Tyson.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

When his team is after this 16, 17, 18, minus 19,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and the turnover differential, still the most penalized team

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

in the league averaging nine penalties a game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like he obviously doesn't have a handle on shit at all, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, he laughs on the left and the love boat is what did him in.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I didn't even get there.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I mean, did he have decent records?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Nope.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He, oh, that's right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He, uh, he finished his career, his five year career.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Uh, one game under 500.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

32 and 33.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He went six and 10 in 2002.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So this year he would go six and 10.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And then nine and seven, eight, nine and seven.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like 100% mediocre.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's like Jeff Fisher, but not as good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, that Jeff Fisher was good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Jeff Fisher was really good at being mediocre for a really fucking long time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

This isn't that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But they showed some stat in this game where Mike Tyson was the coach with the longest, like, tenure in the NFL as a player.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like he'd played for 14 years or something like that before.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Because I thought, well, I guess that doesn't translate.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Let's do you have any other interesting tidbits that a couple left guard for the Vikings?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Maybe the left tackle, no McKinney.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He I think it's his rookie year.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

was and there was shit all over him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They said he was six foot eight three hundred and something pounds.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

The big man.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And they were saying he had to start out of a two point stance on every play

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

instead of a three point stance because he's too slow getting out of a three

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

point stance because he's six eight three hundred something.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Like Grog's like six nine two seventy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I like honestly like these days is not that big.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I know his nickname was Mount McKinney, right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think it was. Yeah. Which isn't like, I didn't seem by today's standards that

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

fucking big, but I guess he was back then.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And Rock was dude, six six. He was there for a long time. I remember he was like,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

legit fuck for a long time.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I thought he was yeah, a bit of a stalwart. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely was.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Bryant McKinney left tackle was there from 2002 to 2013.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which is pretty good.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Started pretty much 16 games every year except for 2008 we started 12 Pro Bowl. Oh nine want a seat for ball

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Wait, what a super bowl. Yes. No, we do. Oh, you must have won it with bolts and more. Yep

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Ravens and the Niners

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Lights went out. That was a shit super. No, it's one. I was rooting for the lights to go out and they did so I turned the game off

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You laugh like I'm kidding

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I can't say in the hardball says coaches like screaming until their face turns right with all the fucking veins

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You tell them Andy you should write them a strongly word letter

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You know I might you know what I can do that

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fucking read cuz I read books. Yeah, but they're not gonna read it cuz they're not fucking losers

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Goddamn it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Where's Greg to shit on when you need him?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Give me give me a fun fact about Greg

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

something embarrassing fun fact about Greg yeah something we can show name it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

sounds like you have one that you want to say I don't I'm trying to think of

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

one off top my head geez oh I got one back when he was little probably about

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the time we were watching these games maybe before he used to cry when the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

patients would lose I have one that he's not gonna be happy that we share so we

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, I'll be sure it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- All right, let's go.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- He was wrestling Danny.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Danny's our neighbor.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's in between me and Greg's age, so.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah, he's like an extra brother.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Right, and Danny had him in like a half guard

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

or a flutter from what the fucking MMA term is,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but like, you know, on their back with their arms pinned.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- So Greg couldn't get up,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and Danny's like kind of straddling him.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And Greg leans up and kisses Danny right on the lips

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

to get out of the hold.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

(laughs)

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I witnessed the whole thing.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- This coming from the man who invented the term,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the best part about wrestling

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

is only one person has to want to wrestle.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- That's who would jump on you and try to wrestle you.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- And then I guess he kisses you too.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

(laughs)

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Which is honestly,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Ductill's right into wrestling, so totally okay.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

(laughs)

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Oh boy, I love it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- All right, so I'm done here.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- We probably should, yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Just a sh- And probably you two, 'cause he knows all your secrets.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, next week, is that Lions Week?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, we haven't done our best and worst, but I can tell you that yes, it is.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Nice.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I believe Thursday, I think this is Thanksgiving day game.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It is.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How about that?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Thursday, I have a 28th.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We have a very, we have a special guest coming for that one.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We do.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's good to know.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Uh-huh.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And I talked to him this week.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We're going to make turkey and stuffing sandwiches.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Okay.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- For dinner.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We're going to go all out around,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but Thanksgiving dinner.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Wait, didn't the candy corn people just come out with

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Thanksgiving flavored candy corn?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- What?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That sounds as good as--

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Did I start her?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- That was disgusting.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Candy corn.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

- Stat check.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brock's turkey dinner candy corn.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

New to store shelves.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

A full course meal presented in a unique mix of candy corn flavors.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, each one's different.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brock's turkey dinner includes all of the traditional Thanksgiving favorites from roasted turkey,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

green beans, and stuffing to ginger glazed carrots, cranberry sauce, and sweet potato pie.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Flavors and green beans.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's like each corn, a different flavor, and you just scoop them all up and eat them to

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

get a mix, whereas each corn, all the flavors mixed.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm going to say each individual corn is a flavor from the look.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You could get like a handful.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's just all green beans and disgusting.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I think it's going to be disgusting either way.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It's available at your local Walgreens.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So maybe we'll have to do that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm going to actually make like a, I could really go for like a.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Turkey and stuffing sandwich.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's the best.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But that won't be nearly as funny as a suffering through a bag of

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brock's turkey dinner candy corn, would it?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Look, he's gonna have to suffer through watching the lions lose.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, but he's used to that.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He's not used to turkey dinner candy corn, is he?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, it's not like violent on the poor guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We're piling on just by having them on the first place because it's

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

suffer through us.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Speaking of suffering, give me your best and worst.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I feel like we've talked about I think the best was Charlie Weiss's play calling

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Especially in the first half. He had he's calling a great game

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They even outers they and they they likened the defense to like a boxer on his heels not knowing where it's coming from like the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

second

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

4a TD was like not only was he open but Daniel Graham was right behind was open like everybody was

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, it was it was literally just nothing but quick passes which was to slow down the defensive line basically

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

No, it's just like I don't know they're cadence and then they just kept everybody off balance

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

It was really good playcon and then the worst was how the Vikings used Randy Moss like I don't think you got one

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Outside of that terrible throw by Culpepper. They didn't take a single deep shot with Randy right?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which like I don't care if he is double-covered. Let's throw it up there. Oh, yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Brady's done it a bunch of third down. It's a pick. You know, might as well be a punt. Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right, my best was

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Tom Brady on I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Think it was in the second quarter after Bennett fumbled the pages got the ball like inside their own 10 yard line

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

and it's third and seven

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And the pages kind of like need to get out of their own end

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Because at this point the

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Kind of starting to drive

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

so what Brady does is he

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Runs the hard count which draws the defensive line off sides

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So then he knows he's got a free place we take the deep shot

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Which then draws a path interference and they get the ball like the 40-yard line. They're out of danger

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, yeah, and this is like year two Tom Brady like that's some fucking that's some veteran shit right there. That was awesome

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We talked about Richard Seymour blocking field goes that was great Roman Fyfer. I think

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We haven't talked enough about him this year. He's he's still been one of the bright spots on

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

the defensive like up front there that front seven and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

He actually forced two of the fumbles in this first half

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

he forced the I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Think it was the Bennett fumble and the Moss fumble both caused by him nice. Yeah, he's been solid

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I feel like he has been too. You know, yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But he's the guy that like never misses a tackle right always where it needs to be always around the ball doing things like that

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Then there's also a

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Kind of what Greg was on here that we can show him for this but

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Belichick calling a timeout right at the end of the first quarter so the Vikings have to punt into the wind

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So didn't build that check yeah, even the house is actually pays up on which I know 26 yard punt I think

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, I have an order here 26 here putt daddy big leg. Yeah. It was garbage plenty of the wood

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So that worked out and I think the page that I'm scoring a touch out on that in suing drive to which is great

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

my worst

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Outside of Gary Anderson's face mask

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Was probably I don't really want to say don't take cold pepper

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, I've a word for you. He was just not good. You ever worse for oh, no, you know what my words is real quick is

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fucking fox can't afford the yellow first download fucking scrubs

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I haven't really seen it yet. Oh

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, no, it's I think it's a national league games. Yeah, I think it's at the point where it's ESPN so owns the rights to it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

but

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Tom Brady got stoned on the fourth down sneak. He did he had a couple that ended up leading to another to the touchdown

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Right in the house, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you never see that I

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Know what I can't remember the last time

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We sneaked and not made it. Yeah, that was like 90 something percent and I think that was the first time it didn't work

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, because they were talking about how before

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

With like less than three yards to go he picked it up 100% of the time so that may have been the first time he felt it

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, that's a great one. So yeah, I think that does it for this game. I don't have any other

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

interesting things

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I'm gonna read more of my books so that I can have something to annoy you about later

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right, I'm fine. I don't care what you do with your time you're deal

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Firmly entrenched in loser value my love build the house. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna bring you down with me though. So yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I guess is the point in the show where we should

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

ask for feedback, yeah

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You keep nobody seems to be I don't nobody seems to be leaving any feedback

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So I feel like we need to kind of sweeten the pot. Do you have any ideas? They can come on the show

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

If they leave feedback. Yeah, or fuck it anybody

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah, or we'll say whatever they want on and on the air

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Fuck it. We'll do it live. Well, read it live.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

But I love it. All right. Yeah. I think how about this? We will say anything.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Any feedback that we get any review that we get.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Well, we have that one guy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That's a dot com shut up.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Rate this podcast dot com slash pat's pod and that'll take you to whatever.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Whatever thing that you use those in the podcast and a way that you can leave a review easily.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You're not like encouraging reviews by saying nobody's reviewing us Andy.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And now no one's going to want to review us because they don't want to be first.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

They're not first.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We have, we have, I think three or four reviews already, but I just wanted to

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

know one guy that messaged us.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And we're going to have him on exactly.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And soon.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

That could be you.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

You could message us and then we're so desperate for guests.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

We bring you on.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So here, how about this?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

How about we do this?

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Any feedback we get we're going to read on the podcast.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Yeah.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Sure.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So if you if you want to hear a

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

lesson,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

or a voice unless it's slandering me and

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

then it's not especially if it's

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

slandering you know if it's

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

slandering you and have Greg read it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And if it's slandering Neil have you

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

read it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And if I think it's maybe it's more

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

like the mean tweets where you have to

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

read your own slanderous.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

Oh, that's even better.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

I love it.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

All right.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

So if yeah, if you have anything

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

good or preferably bad to say,

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

you will read it on here.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings

And how about at the end of or if we if we find them, we like, especially if you got some like cool inside or something like that, we will have you on the podcast if you want to come on.

2002 Week 12: Patriots vs Vikings