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This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

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you have the choice not to.

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My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really,

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they're just being stupid.

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You still want to listen?

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Go right ahead.

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I am not your mother.

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Welcome back everybody.

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Taking some dynasty podcast getting close to the end of the 2002 season on week 15 as we travel to

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I don't know where in Tennessee is it?

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Nashville?

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It is. Yeah, it's got to be Nashville. You boys have you boys have been I have not

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The Nashville, Tennessee to face the eight and five

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Tennessee Titans

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The Patriots also eight and five so this is a game that means a lot in the playoffs

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And we will come across that soon enough at least for the Patriots

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But before we get stuck in

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Steve Brown would you like to introduce your guest?

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Yeah, we have Scott joining us not because he's a Titan spin though just because

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You heard how awesome Trevor had here. So here he is. I heard Trevor on I got really jealous felt like I needed to one up them

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We'll see how it goes, but I was also kind of a Titans fan just because they had like a cool logo

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Yeah, and cool. So was Steve actually is I could draw the logo really well

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To draw because like I'm a child

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It was like a team, but it was also like a sword. It was super cool to draw and I had like playing the shit off it

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That's flames. I just thought it was a tea with like some stars around it as I'm sure now

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And then I had a circle had like the red and blue flames coming off it

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I was really good at drawing the Falcons logo

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Because it was like a straight line at the top and then a curve at the bottom. It was super easy

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Yeah, it's a good one to fucked up with an impossible to draw

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Impossible the new one's not that bad. It's easy. I don't know. I'm terrible at that

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I've had a lot of practice I bet Greg can draw it. I

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Mean it's tough to make it look like it's supposed to look

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Yeah, I'm a couple of them out and but like it still comes out where we're looking

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Because I'm a terrible drawer. That's why I like the Titans one. It's just a tea. It's just straight lines and shit

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It's easy. It was a super downgrade from the Oilers though those old Oilers jerseys and helmets are so sweet the color

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Yeah, I feel like those helmets were up there with the old Patriots helmets

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Like it just screams old school. Yeah, I agree

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I was just a fan of the baby blue on the Titans, you know, it's nice. It's like the Chargers baby blue. Yeah

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I think it's better than what the charges are wearing now. Have you seen this here with those like knee-on-yellow fans?

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It's like if Steve had designed a uniform

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Titan's kind of a shitty name, you know, like does it even have any relevance to Tennessee?

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Probably not. Maybe they're the Titans of industry. It's super scary though. Well, didn't Chris Burman who wanted to be the

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Tennessee tuxedos which would have been fucking cool.

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- Yeah, sick.

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- Sick.

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- It's like, yeah, just like black everywhere except for like the

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front like chess piece would be white.

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Well, bow tie at the top.

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- Bow ties.

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God, that is sweet.

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- That would be so sweet.

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- I feel like it would look kind of soft though, you know,

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just like guys out there and fake tuxedo.

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- You look like a gentleman.

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- Everyone looks great at the--

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Is a gentleman like are you scared of a gentleman now?

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I feel like you look at someone in a tuxedo.

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You feel like you can fuck them up.

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No, you break.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, say that to James Bond.

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Yeah, you're right.

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You're right.

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Sorry.

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I take it back.

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But this was not the Tennessee tuxedos.

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This is the Tennessee Titans, unfortunately.

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And unfortunately, they kicked their shit out

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of the Patriots in this game.

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We lost.

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We start with a score.

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Yeah, they're lost.

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Damn.

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Thanks for coming, Greg.

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They lost 24/7.

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There were no highlights for this game awful good if someone shit. That's why that's how bad it was there were no highlights

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Yeah, yeah, they were actually I literally couldn't find any highlights except for one guy

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Who was I think some like Titans historian or something like that?

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You had like a minute 52 clip of the pick six and that was at the time ready through

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All right, this is a hard all for my party. I really really regret coming on this episode. Yeah, this is not a great episode

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Did you actually watch the game?

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I actually watched the game. I was like I'm gonna be all in on this and then I watch I look at the score

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And I'm like fuck

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I already made a mistake and then I watched the first half and I'm like this is just the fucking worst this game sucks

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You watch first half you like how can I get worse and then it does yeah, and then you watch the second half

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So yeah, so let's do the watchability score on a six-long party Steve. I think I heard you say you gave it a one

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Yeah, it was final scores. What was it 24?

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And it wasn't that close. It wasn't that we should have been the Titans were running clock basically halfway through the third quarter

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After Brady through the pick six. Yeah

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It was a microcosm of the entire season where the Patriots couldn't stop the run

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Couldn't actually run the ball and then just like gave up on it completely. I think

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Greg do you have the stats there?

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Let's see

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Rushing yards forward against well George had a hundred yards to the ground with another 50 from McNair

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Oh another 80 85 from Robert Holcomb right so

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Tennessee got

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238 rushing yards the patrons had 56

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Yeah, kind of those were from top though because Eddie George had 31 rushes. Yeah, a hundred yards 31

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Like, uh, like, Garrett Blunt, but without like Garrett Blunt,

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making a big run.

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And I'll just three yards fall over.

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Yeah, it was not good.

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The average three yards.

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And I felt like every single run he had was also three yards.

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Yeah.

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Except for that, we had one that was 15.

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And then everything else was literally three yards of care.

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Yeah.

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This is 2002, huh?

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Yeah.

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120 passing yards to the Patriots and 127 for the Titans. Yeah

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That's what I'm saying. I knew that I looked that up at a time

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Yeah, yeah, I didn't say anything Steve

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Like how bad is it really and it was it was that bad so yeah, I give it I

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Mean this is probably I'd say the worst loss we've seen so far

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I mean there's been some dolphins ones that were brutal, but this is

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score wise. Like the pages don't lose this big. Really ever.

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So I felt like it was much worse than the score as well, just because like I said,

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they seemed like they were just running out the clock the entire game.

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They just ran the ball over and over again and we couldn't stop them.

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And if they tried to pass it, uh,

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McNair would drop back to pass and then the field would open up in the middle and

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he'd just like, it wasn't even running.

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He was more like limping for 10 yards a pop.

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Yeah, he was although I mean the first maybe watch the first 10 minutes of it because

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There's some awesome names in there. Oh, yeah

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Those I didn't come back again later, but there's so many good players that you're like oh shit. I remember him

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I remember him. Yeah, I think I see the Titans next year. Let's let's get in this Titans team

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They would finish the season 11 and 5

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First in the AFC South the vaunted AFC South

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They would beat the Steelers in overtime in a shootout 34 31 in the divisional and

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Lose they get their doors blown off by the Raiders who would you know go to the Super Bowl?

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2441 not great. Yeah, and this was Jeff Fisher though

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Which it was this guy was surprising

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To see Jeff Fisher beat the Patriots because this was literally his only

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Time he did it in the seven games that he played. Can we get his record against the Patriots because

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Yeah, he was six and one but no the Patrets were six and one against Jeff

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I thought it'd be more around 500

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Not against it's a Patriots

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Everybody overall, but they were they were rolling coming to this game, right? They started one in four. Yeah, so they kind of mirrored the Patriots season where

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They won their first game that lost four in a row so the Patriots won their first two games in lost four in a row and then they won

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I think it was coming into like six of the last seven or something like that to get to eight and five and

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The pages, you know, it kind of did the same sort of thing

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so

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They were kind of mirror images, but I think I

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don't know why but it seemed like the

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Titans were more legit

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Eight and five in the Patriots were because even in like these wins that we've seen this year and they haven't been particularly

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Like dominant in any fashion

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They've just they've been winning, but they've been kind of like boring wins like we talked last week

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Yeah, yeah that game in Chicago is really boring Andy

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Guys in Chiefs snoozer

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Talking about since those now you're talking about the podcast that we're recording based on the season. That's what's boring. I

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Just agree

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Well, this is a legit team though. I mean there what two years three years removed from their Super Bowl, right? Correct. 1999

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Yeah

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So they went through they went 13 and three for 1999 and 2000

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And a lot of those guys are still on this team. Yeah, but they're they're kind of starting to break down now

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Like we're talking about McNair. He they were talking about

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No, this was an Michael's and John Madden first of all amazing

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But they were talking about how

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McNair didn't practice during the week

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Yeah for like the last six or something. He just gave up on practicing. Yeah, he just shows up on game day and fucking slings it

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Classic steeping there though. He did that forever. Yeah, cuz they showed some like

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infographic of like all the injuries he'd had over the years. It's like oh he has a

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Bad tone. He's got a bad knee and he's got a bad shoulder. He's got a bad ribs

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He's got a bad other shoulder and they just on and on like every single year. He was just like dragging his ass

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Through the season

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But doesn't go to win an MVP after this in like two years remember when Patriots beat the co-MVPs manning

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And I was next year. I want me to want to get into Steve McNair. I got a lot. Yeah

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For sure. See McNair. I got a lot of notes. I watched his a football life Steve McNair. He's the man

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Nice.

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He is the man.

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So let's start at the beginning here.

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He's a country boy through and through.

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He's from Mount Olive, Mississippi.

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So he's super talented.

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He gets it.

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He was drafted by the Mariners out of high school.

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He got offered a full boat to play at Florida, but they wanted to play like defensive back.

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So he said no, and he went to Alcorn State, which is a...

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in Mississippi, it's in HBCU, and it's also Division 1 AA.

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- So basically, you are in the age of Mississippi.

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- Dude, and yeah.

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(laughing)

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He fucking dominated.

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I can't remember who's stats we were talking about last week,

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but his senior year stats at Alcorn State,

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he had combined yardage on the ground and through the air.

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He had 6,281 yards and 56 touchdowns in 11 games.

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- 11 games?

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- He was averaging 570 yards of offensive game

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and five touchdowns.

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- Holy shit.

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- Like a holy crap.

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- You should look up his college highlights there.

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- Does he have college highlights?

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- Mm-hmm.

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- Oh fuck yeah.

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- Dude he was a thick boy too.

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They kept mentioning it in the football life.

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There was-- - They mentioned the game

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all the time too, yeah.

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- Yeah, like a lot of them.

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(laughing)

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- Dude, he actually came third in Heisman voting.

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- At Alcorn State.

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- Yep, that's the same.

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- It's tied for the highest ever,

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like, finish for a one-double-A player.

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- Holy shit.

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- Did he run a bunch in college too,

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or did he kind of pick that up in NFL?

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I think he did run a bunch in college.

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I want to, I mean, not like everyone.

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Yeah, he goes like 5,000 through the air

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and 1,000 on the ground in 11 games.

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That's insane.

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I have a hard time doing that in Madden on easy.

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He was a thick boy though, you know?

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So he, there was a great story from when he was like

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at college and they were talking about

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how he hated lifting weights

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And the strength coach was like,

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I said that if he could go over there

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and bench press 260 10 times,

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he wouldn't have to work out for the year.

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And he said he just went over, knocked it out,

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and then went, took a nap in the weight room.

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(laughing)

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- Bad ass.

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- Yeah, that's what I got.

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- It's incredible. - I got a problem, yeah.

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- So then he, so he has a really successful senior year,

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and he's pretty highly touted coming out of there.

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So 1995 draft, he's picked third overall by the Houston Oilers.

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He's the highest drafted African American quarterback

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at the time, which I thought was pretty interesting.

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- Wait, when did he get drafted?

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- '95.

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- Wow.

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- So he's like, I looked it up in the names you'd recognize,

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the form like Cunningham and War Moon.

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Those are the guys that kind of like set the standard, I think.

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- Yeah, I'm awesome.

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- But he was the first ever MVP, like Steve was saying,

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He was the first ever black MVP,

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second ever black quarterback

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to starting a Super Bowl.

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Can you name the first?

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- Doug Williams.

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- Nice, Andy.

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- Wow.

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- Nicely done.

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- Nailed that.

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- 1988.

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- Yeah, Redskins.

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- Yeah.

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- He's got no reason to name.

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- So I mean, he took him a little while to get,

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like, the win the starting job.

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By the time they went to Tennessee,

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that's when he started really picking it up.

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So I think that was 99, I believe.

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- Yeah.

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- And that was the year they went to the Super Bowl,

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they had the music, steady miracle,

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- Oh, right.

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- They had the Pro Bowl, so that,

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they went 13 and three that year.

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So 2000 to 2005 is really is like hey day.

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So we're kind of in the midst of it here.

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- Yeah, no kidding.

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- Yeah, he won the MVP in 2003 with Manning.

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- That's nice.

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- There was more people talking about him napping.

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He loved taking naps apparently.

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I

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Fisher that said like he used to nap before every practice in every game and that if he didn't get his nap in he'd play really poorly

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He's like all grumpy and shit cuz he

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Beds in the locker room just for him dude, I don't know

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He's just a country boy, you know, you just like take a snooze forever

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Did you go play for bar after let me think a little nap

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Yeah, so he ends up he it sounded like kind of a sour ending in Tennessee they drafted Vince young now

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It was just replacement. All right

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So they traded him to the Ravens

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Yeah, he actually went 13 and 3 with the Ravens in 06. That's right and

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Then after that he kind of tailed off and then he retired like two years later

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And then if you remember he actually was murdered

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A little while ago. Did you know that? I thought I thought it was a something else. Yeah, it was a murder suicide

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so oh

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It was one of his mistresses, right?

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It's like

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It's this 20 year old

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Iranian bartender at David Buster

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This back check it did so hell Kazimi

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So she's his mistress and I guess

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What they think happened was she saw his other mistress

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Leaving there his like he had like a separate apartment where he like took

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Women back to I guess that his wife didn't know about

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Okay, so he went there one night and

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basically she

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Shot him three times and then shot herself in the head

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At the apartment shit. That's super sad. Yeah

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Yeah, I mean it's fuck. I mean it's one of those things right this is a lot of like conspiracy

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she sure shit floating around about it. But it seems pretty cut and dry. I mean, she was

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going through like issues with money. And then she saw the other chick. She was, I think,

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a bit. I mean, she's Iranian. So how many Iranian listeners do we have?

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And if you think no offense I ran at all, it's fine. We love you guys. Hopefully none right now.

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So yeah, a tragic ending, but a pretty sick career.

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And like there's all sorts of cool stuff he did with like,

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they said he had like a football camp in the south

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where he had like 11,000 kids come through the camp

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and not a single, it was completely free

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for every single person.

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And like Cam Newton went there, Vince Young went there.

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So like some pretty big names went through his football camp.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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That's sweet.

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Yeah.

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Another one of the reasons I actually liked the Titans

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because they had Steve McNair and he was like,

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he was like the original like Deshawn Watson.

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Like, no, I think I got a good comp.

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It's Ben Rothaceberger.

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- Oh, you have to cap that up the dog.

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- He's more athletic than Dan.

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- Definitely more athletic.

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- He also, Ben also always seems to be hurt.

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I'm like skipping a ton of practices and playing.

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You know, Ben's a tough son of a bitch.

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- That's true.

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- Yeah.

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- And he's like, he can run pretty well

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and he's tough to bring down.

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- He's tough to bring down for sure.

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- In his game, he had that touchdown run

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where he broke that guy and then just with Tyler.

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I just threw right through.

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I went to the meet with the goal line and he just ran over him and he got like ping pong

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with another safety coming across.

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It was a fucking grit tee run.

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He had that fourth goal.

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QB sneak.

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Yep.

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He was a pure grit.

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I love how he's just like a country strong boy too.

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I need to meet somebody like that.

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You know?

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Don't you live in North Carolina?

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Yeah, but that's not really country, you know, I mean they can't be too far from there. Not

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I'm talking like Louisiana

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Yeah

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He opened like a crawfish restaurant to in Nashville like, you know, just super southern shit. That's what that's the thing. I need

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Was this stadium the same one that we went to Greg? I didn't know if they built a new one

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Yeah, it's the same same. It's a different name

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It was a Delphi a Delphia Colesthem. So they built it when they moved

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All right in 1999 I believe I

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Think it's gonna be better now though

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Because there was a shit on a talk in this game about how

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God awful the grass was really basically they only replaced the turf between the numbers

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So there's a strip of like actual grass and the rest of it was they literally called a painted dirt because they were spray painting the sidelines

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Because you couldn't actually see where it was. There's a bunch of guys like stepping out of bounds

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Like trying to catch your pass because they didn't know they were out of bounds because you couldn't actually see where the line was

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Hmm and Bellacie back was for the game had like yeah

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He made them like repaint it to make it more obvious and it still didn't work

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Yeah, they showed a clip of him before the game like pointing at the sideline like hey

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We need to paint this spot right here. This is gonna be an issue and it was yeah

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multiple time for both teams

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Yeah, it was bad. He was yeah Madden was like this is all these these teams are like billion dollar industries

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And they can't afford grass the fuck is this? What are they doing? Are they working on golf courses? This is unacceptable

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It was awesome

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Yeah, I enjoy I've forgotten how much I enjoyed Madden did madman. It's a lot of you gets a lot of shit

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but

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Like looking back at on what he's talking about now compared to the guys we have today. I think

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I think I take Madden over any of them.

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- Yeah, did you catch that at the end of the first half

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when the Patriots had just like a little bit of time out left

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and like one or two time outs?

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And they should go for it.

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They need to throw this ball.

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I need to get down the field.

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- He's like, I've learned my lesson.

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- Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know that was hilarious.

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- Yeah, that was great.

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- I've taken shots at himself.

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No, he was great.

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I really enjoyed him.

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- Sad for me that when I hear Madden,

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I just think of like Frank Caliendo's impression of Madden

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Every time it's like a sad thing with me.

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I don't even remember the axle, Madden.

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Great impression though.

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He's in all time.

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He is all time.

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He's really good.

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Rewatch these games is giving me a whole new appreciation

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for his commentary.

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Yeah.

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The only thing I could remember from Madden was like,

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it was always him doing Cowboys games.

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It was like the only memories I had of John Madden.

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And him saying in the Super Bowl, don't go for it.

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That was like the defining memory for me for Madden.

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Yeah.

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Everybody forgets that he changed this two and a half or two is like, actually, you know, what fuck it. Let's do this.

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I mean, he's just, you know, saying that call it as he sees it, which is pretty sweet, which I like.

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That's how he saw it at that time. And I think we sat on that Super Bowl episode. You can kind of see where he's coming from.

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

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Can we talk about his eyebrows for a second? They're incredible.

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They're a different color from his hair. It's insane.

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Which makes sense.

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That's super bushy, too. Incredible.

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Like as a guy with bushy eyebrows, I appreciate his eyebrows.

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You tweeze him.

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I should instead just let him go wild.

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He doesn't get that guy.

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He just like someone's going crazy.

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Yeah.

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You know, you have bushy eyebrows when if you go to like get your haircut

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and they take the trimmers and the the the cold.

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They do you know how they do it?

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Like buy your ear.

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They do that on your eyebrows too.

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Like off.

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Yeah, I had to tell the lady, Hey, Hey, what are you doing?

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Leave the eyebrows.

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She just started buzzing them off.

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They have no better than I do.

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They can do whatever the fuck they want.

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Yeah.

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They are a different color.

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Yeah, they're like a dark brown.

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And he has gray hair.

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It's bizarre.

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He's a he's a rough looking dude.

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Oh, yeah.

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He's good.

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Well, what's the clothes that he's been ridden hard and put away wet?

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I mean, that's why he didn't like flying.

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Why?

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What was that?

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I think it's a motorcycle thing, but

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Yeah.

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And written hard and put away what is that specific to him or is that just a phrase you

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know, that's just a phrase I've heard that phrase.

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I think it's like saddles or something like that, where they're fucking all whether

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hidden hard and put away what definitely sounds like a sex joke.

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It hasn't been taken care of.

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Okay, it was written hard in this game.

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The Patriots offense by the Titans defense.

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for

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it's

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the defense report showing something else but carry

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garbage

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that tight is defense had a ton of studs too

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yeah they did

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yes and big names on the defense rookie albert hanesworth

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driven care

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should we talk about albert hanesworth

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yet and it's like he's getting a little bit of a loss

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roughing the passer. Do you see that super dirty roughing the passer?

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Yeah, it wasn't that dirty, but it was definitely.

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I mean, we've been watching these gays for the last couple of years and it's

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astounding how few, you know, roughing the passers are.

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Yeah. That now amazing. It definitely is.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. That would have been in today's NFL.

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But back then, I think it was, I was surprised to see it called.

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Oh, yeah.

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We've seen a break and hit like that before and there's been no flag.

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But I mean, with what we know about Albert Haynesworth now, I'd say it's

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deserved, even though it wasn't the time.

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Maybe they just encouraged him to be who he is today by calling a

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foul on him on the soft one early.

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Yeah.

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What do you know?

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What do we know about him now?

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Well, we know that he's six, five 317 pounds.

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I can run a 48 to 40.

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That's pretty quick, which is fucking bananas, considering Tom Brady

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ran a five to eight.

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So you're in a four eight four eight

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three seventeen apparently so absolutely fucking monster of a man but uh and

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According to Wikipedia and it's in an incident foreshadowing future incidents with Hanesworth

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occurred at the Titans training camp in 2003

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Where Hanesworth kicked his former teammate centered Justin Hartwig in the chest and had to be restrained by other teammates

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So started our victim in the chest, huh?

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Was that like a standing kick to the chest? Was he sitting down like cuz if it's a standing

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kick to the chest that's impressive.

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Yeah, I don't know if I mean he can run fast, but I don't think Hamesworth is getting his

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foot up to somebody's chest.

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Yeah, I don't know what's his name.

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Maybe it was on his knees or something. I don't know.

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All right.

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All right.

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But three years later in 2006 is the famous one where in third quarter of a game against

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Cowboys running back Julius Jones scored rushing play in the center

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Andre Garrode, I guess

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Felt to the ground whose helmet was removed by Hanesworth

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Hanesworth attempted to stomp on Garrode's head, but missed so he tried it again

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Second stop opened a severe wound in Garrode's head forehead narrow missing his right eye

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Clean play that's better

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Referee Jerome Boger assess Hainesworth a 15 yard unsporchedman like conduct penalty to which Hainesworth

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Protested by taking off his helmet and throwing into the turf

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Hainesworth was then assessed an additional 15 yard penalty was ejected from the game

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Jesus yeah, it's on the extra point. So who cares yeah, and then he kicked the locker room attended in the chest

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He's a good guy or I swear what's worse Jason Garrett or that I mean that's gotta be where I don't know Jason Garrett Jason Garrett. I'm not Garrett

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From the Browns miles Garrett. Oh, yeah with the helmet smash

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Probably this I might know I don't know if he connects with the helmet though. That's gonna

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You did you brought them on the top of the head he bonked him

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It's an incredible word

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And the fact that you can call it a bunk. I think there's a show that

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Haynesworth literally trying to curb stomp some dude in the middle of a football play

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It's probably worse to me what I mean

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The guy

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I want to be hit in the head by male mile Garrett with a football helmet or stomped curb stomped by Albert Haynesworth

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Which would you rather

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which death is better. I'll probably take the stomping. I might take the helmet to

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the head. I feel like he really gets you in the head or the eyebrow can knock you out.

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I don't think so. In 2010, Sylvia Mina, a stripper from New York claimed in a

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$10 million lawsuit that Haynesworth impregnated her and left her with no

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financial assistance. As I said, he's a good guy.

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- Are we adding that to the pogreg or like?

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- You beat somebody up in a traffic altercation.

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I guess he partially paralyzed somebody

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while driving in speeds excess of 100 miles an hour

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in his Ferrari.

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That was in 2008.

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- Holy shit.

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- We know what this guy's doing now.

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- He's still playing, man.

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- Yeah.

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Well, in 2015, he pled guilty for reckless voting.

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And in 2019, he revealed his kidneys are failing is seeking a donor

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for transplant.

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Oh, you're really sad.

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Looks like the chickens have come home to roost.

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If you will, he's working at the David and Buster's with that.

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Oh, they're talking about

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in response to Hainesworth's failure to pass a Redskins conditioning test

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in 2010, the addition, the August edition of satire news

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organization, the onion ran the headline within a company,

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a company in photo report Albert Haynesworth, just a mound of ice cream and

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hot dogs.

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It was a fat bitch.

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It was.

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It wasn't he the one that had the play where he just like, felt down and

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then just like gave up on the play, just lay there.

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Yeah, that was an idea of a play.

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That was amazing.

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That was legitimately hilarious.

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That was a, oh yeah.

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He was on the Redskins, right?

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Yeah, I think it was a Redskins.

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Of course it was a Redskins who else would it be.

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How many of the good years did he have?

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That's the question.

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He's pretty good.

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He's good for a while.

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Yeah.

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Like yeah, he got one wicked huge contract, right?