2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

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This game doesn't deserve a watchability rating. The Patriots travel to the ~~depths of hell~~ Miami and (spoiler alert) wither in the Florida heat to continue the dynasty's longest losing streak. With that mindset, the brothers touch on the following:

The futility of playing in Miami
The dangers of edibles
A deep dive on Ricky Williams
A Football Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTEz-OgAN88
ESPN Magazine cover: https://www.espn.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2112903
Foosball talk
Blocking Big Ben on Twitter
Heavy Metal

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Game Info

New England Patriots

Patriots

13

at

Miami Dolphins

Dolphins

26

Sunday October 6, 2002

	1	2	3	4	Final
New England Patriots	0	0	6	7	13
Miami Dolphins	6	10	7	3	26

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Episode Transcript

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

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you have the choice not to.

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My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really,

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they're just being stupid.

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You still want to listen?

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Go right ahead.

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I am not your mother.

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the

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you're supposed to go

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i know i think i didn't mean fucking fond of your microphone now

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me

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i don't know who was making the noise

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my microphone is fixed to my desk cuz i have a true podcast setup right for mike

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- I mean, it's also finding you with their warm glow

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of Tom Brady pictures.

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- All right.

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Welcome to the "Pagers Dynasty" podcast.

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And for those of you who've been listening all the way through,

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welcome back.

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We're week five of the 2002 NFL season.

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The Patriots have traveled to Miami

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to visit the three-in-one Dolphins.

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The Patriots also three-in-one,

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but not for long for either of these teams.

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Let's talk about these fucking Miami fucking dolphins, shall we?

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Well, wait.

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I want to acknowledge a mistake you made there.

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He said they're both three and one, but not for long.

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That's true.

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By the fact, though, that they're playing the game.

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Right.

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That's what I was meaning.

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Oh, they're both going to have a different record

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at the end of this game.

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Yeah, I think it was podcast.

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We will find out what those records are.

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OK.

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All right.

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Oh, we can ruin it now and let you know that the new game on page would lose this game.

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They get doubled up by a score of 26 to 13.

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This is like the longest losing streak of our dynasty.

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So clearly they lost so far it is.

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We're to ruin that, Steve.

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What everyone knows this period is one of the pages lost in most games in a row.

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It's true.

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Have you learned how many games it is yet?

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No, don't tell me how I want to be surprised when we win a game.

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I know that we're going to lose a bunch.

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But I don't know how many.

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I don't remember how long the street lasted.

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Do you have a do you have like a ballpark in your mind?

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What you think it's going to be question?

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But I think I'm are we ended up nine and seven, right?

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I think yeah.

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Now we're eight, eight, right?

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We were nine, seven, I think.

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I think so. Yeah.

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So I'm going to say five games.

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OK, let's see how that turns out.

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We're five.

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And let's do our Lombardi rating.

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- Oh, right, yeah.

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The watchability of this.

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- One of the parties.

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- Greg, how many Lombardi would you give this game?

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(laughing)

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- Well, the highlights.

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- They had the prime time highlights on YouTube.

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- So that's already won.

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- Yes.

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- By default.

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- And that's all I watch, so.

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I'm on the scale of like not on YouTube to prime time on YouTube.

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So I'll go.

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I'll give it a three, three Lombardis.

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All right.

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Fair enough.

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I watched this whole game and I give it negative one.

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Not Lombardi.

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Dude, you can't do that.

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I don't think we can do negative.

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So zero zero Lombardis.

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This game was atrocious.

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I would give it one Lombardi.

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Just because of the touchdown catches that happened for the Patriots in this game, they were pretty sick.

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Two good plays in the entire game.

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Yeah.

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And there was a stat where the Patriots had two scoring drives, right?

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And two drives of five or more plays in the whole game.

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And those are the two scoring drives.

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First half.

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All right.

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All right.

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Pump the brakes.

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We haven't actually talked about these fucking Miami fucking dolphins yet.

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But if that's not a zero Lombardi game, I don't know what is.

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I can think of one off the top of my head.

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It wasn't entertaining, though.

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I was going to give a couple off the top of my head.

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He's watching here.

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Yeah.

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What are they, Andy?

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The 0.7 Super Bowl.

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Is it a bomb?

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Bardi's and then the loss to the Jets and the playoffs.

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That's close.

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I'm going to get to negative.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was at that game.

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It was brutal.

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Oh, seven, two bowls at least like close and you're on the edge of your seat all the time.

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Yeah, but it's just the way it ended, bud.

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That negates anything that happened beforehand for me.

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We'll get to that.

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Yeah.

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You should never get blown out, but they got a wolf in here.

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They lost by 13 points.

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That's not exactly a blowout, but it's actually less than they lost to Miami last year.

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I didn't watch that.

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30 to 10 right that was a me and Mike game and that was one where you said I think that was also a zero on party game

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Yes, never watch that again. No, and that was in Miami as well, right?

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Yeah

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so let's actually touch on that real quick because I

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Remember the page is not playing well in Miami. I

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Didn't realize how bad it actually was

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good

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Like oh, I knew it was pretty well documented

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Yeah, they mustn't know but I feel like the the the edges have kind of been taken off of that in the in the dynasty era

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have they

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To a certain extent. I mean it's still a hard place to play but it's it wasn't the nightmare that I think you

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Are underestimating it used to be?

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Because the Patriots it's since since Bell check took over the pages of 9 and 11

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Which you know feels like a travesty of itself

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It against dolphins in Miami, right? Yeah, which is terrible compared to their

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Like average, you know win percentage

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I have you know what they were before Bell check took over though

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Yeah, but that they're consistent with how they were normally playing like it's an aberration

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That's why it's so crazy that they're

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Yeah

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They were seven and 27

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They were four and twenty five actually okay, so it's a disparity between their total

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win percentage over that time and then the disparity between in

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Underpeil check so I just I just want to want to just pause this moment right now because I

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Don't think what Greg realized what he's done is that he the stat tracker has given himself a stat to check

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I've been listening to that podcast. He sent me oh yeah stats over storylines, baby. It's great. It's shout him out

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Yeah

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I'm not buying these storylines anymore Andy check the goddamn numbers. All right. I'm telling them is the Patriots

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from

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whatever the

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Pro Football reference start is the like the Super Bowl era right back in the 70s 70 or 72

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Okay

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From when they started playing the dolphins

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They were their first win from 1970 came against the dolphins in Miami anybody want to guess the year that it came

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1970 no

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83 no

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Further or after you were born

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Uh, it was just after.

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Wow.

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I was two.

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It was 1985.

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They started to own 16 at Miami before getting the first one.

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Oh, yeah.

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There at the longest wind streak the pages have had in my like playing in Miami.

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Three games.

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That's not very good.

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2010 to 2012, like this is it's a house of horrors.

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So I kind of almost want to write to the stats in storylines guy.

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That's over storylines guys and say, do does Miami as a home stadium?

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Is it more of a home field advantage than these other like so-called home field

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advantage is like Denver and Kansas.

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I would say and not in terms of like how, how many more games they win at home

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than they do away because dogs are terrible away.

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Yeah, so I think that's just a Patriots thing.

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Maybe.

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And it's also a like September thing.

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Like this game is pretty early in the year and they're talking about how hot it is and the dark jerseys and all that.

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That's always been that like the early season Patriots games over that.

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She's done for the game.

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We went to as a family.

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Yep.

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Early in the year.

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It was pretty hot as shit.

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So hot.

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I'd take my shirt off.

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Yeah, that's why you did it.

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Yeah, the Patriots at home against the Dolphins 16 and four.

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Like that's a ridiculous disparity.

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16 and four.

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Yeah, as opposed to 9 and 11 in my own.

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So 56 features 53.

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Yeah, so basically Miami only wins when they're playing home and the Patriots only win when

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they play at home.

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Crazy.

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So what is it Andy for before Bella check at home?

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I don't have those numbers right now.

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Said it was four and 25.

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Yeah, four and 25 in Miami.

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Okay.

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We'll put it in the show notes,

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but I'm running those numbers 'cause I wanna know.

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Yeah, so do I.

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Because my gut feeling is,

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this is like somewhat of just like a weird anomaly.

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Like yeah, there's the heat element.

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But I think it's just one of those weird,

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like the Hail Mary or the Hail Mary play, right?

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Where Crog could, that's just like a weird thing.

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- That's true.

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- You know, it's got nothing to do with like,

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where you know they didn't play well enough to.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah, it was just like a weird,

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one of those Ryan Fitzpatrick games.

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- Yeah.

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- The game that we went to,

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they had four chances from like the 10 yard line

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to punch in, they didn't remember.

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- Yep. - Yeah.

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- So the more of the story,

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it's like a Bermuda triangle, you know?

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There's no explanation.

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- A Miami triangle, if you will.

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- Yeah. - Yeah.

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- Where do you think it's, I mean,

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over the, at least the pages of Odyssey,

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it's been pretty clear it's been two stadiums

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when they struggle.

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It's on the road of Miami early in the year

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and it's at mile high.

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- Yep.

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- Which one's worse, you think?

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Um, worse in which way.

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Which one kept Brady up later at night?

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Oh.

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Mile high.

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That's a good question.

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Yeah, because I feel like the mile high games were more

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stakes were higher and you didn't play him as often.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, because three of those losses came in the playoffs.

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Two came in over time.

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There were five and seven mile high.

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I bet early in the year, though, like, like an early embrace career.

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That's probably the dolphins though.

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Oh, yeah, they had his number like nothing else.

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Sure.

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All right.

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You want to hear true home field advantage statistics?

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Okay.

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For all 32 NFL teams.

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I do.

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The best.

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The Baltimore Ravens.

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really. What? I think this goes back to Cleveland though, because they're looking at it.

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I was just going to ask if that population of like 400 games. So that's got to be before

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they moved to Baltimore. I think so. The bills are second. That makes sense. Got to love it.

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Vikings, Niners, dolphins are like middle of the pack. Where are the Broncos? No one's

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like, seven maybe. Seahawks are universal guardians, the 12th man and all that shit.

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Right. They're like 10th. And what are these numbers based on? Oh, I don't look at those

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things. I just see as I see a table in the article and I just go right there. The words

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fuck them. So I say it was probably like, like, win percentage. We surveyed. It looks

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like it's using home in a way scoring margins.

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Okay, I mean, I don't know.

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Where is July?

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It's not stadium specific, Steve.

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I think that's where you're getting hung up.

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Like Seattle right now is because they're stadium.

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But if you're looking at 400 games, then right, you're talking about like the whole

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lifetime of the franchise.

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They were pretty terrible early on.

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I don't see the Patriots are about what we're trying to tackle here.

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right how many games is this podcast supposed to be if we will all look to the end of

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Oh, that's a great question. It is 361 games. Yeah. Right. So we're at least them. I don't know.

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We're probably one of the older half of the stadiums now in the league. Would you say that?

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I would say. Yeah, because it was built in one 2001. Yeah. So 20 years ago, that's pretty old for a stadium.

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Yeah, speaking of stadiums though, I still have a problem.

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And it wasn't even here in this game, but I have a problem with the teams that share

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stadiums with baseball team.

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You don't like that?

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What is it?

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Is that for like poor people?

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Like are we sharing?

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So they couldn't afford their own stadium?

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Like this is the NFL we're talking about here.

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Four people.

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Yes, Indians.

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Well, yeah, the cities are paying for it.

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Well, that's true.

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Miami's got a shit ton of money though.

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I know.

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You know what I always like built the Marlins like their third stadium in 10 years.

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Yeah.

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And no one goes to those games.

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Exactly.

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I used to always like watch those games and just.

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You know how like when you watch that old screensaver and hope it hits the corner.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I used to always hope that I'd see someone like running on football field at quarterback and then

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slide and like have it time up so they were sliding into like a second base.

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I was like just once in my life. I want to see that time up correctly

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That would have been a great celebration though

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Like if you scored touchdown because the whole play had to be like towards a corner of the end zone, right? No

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And it's not the field that feel I don't know I mean

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Be in the outfield with like a portion of like the second base

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Part of the dirt coming in like near the 50 yard line

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It wasn't it was like 30 yard line, but still I think I don't know

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- No.

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And how do they not just put sod on that?

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Like, I'm sure it's a real reason,

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but they can turn that MBA stadium into an NHL stadium

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in like two hours.

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- Well, I'm out. - Mimi grass.

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Grass is alive for one.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- And put it, just laying it down.

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It's just gonna slide all over the place.

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- Oh, you wanna talk about growing grass to you?

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Was it in your episode?

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Let's go.

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- Here we go.

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- Well, you see what the new Raider Stadium is doing?

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- No.

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- They have like that fake turf stuff

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for the University of Nevada who are playing on it.

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And then on top of it is sitting like a huge slab

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of real grass that they can put on rollers

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and roll outside the stadium.

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- Oh, like they have an Arizona.

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- Yeah.

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- Yeah.

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- Aren't those through that, right?

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- Yeah.

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- For no fucking reason, they're like, dude,

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Why not just not have a roof problem?

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Well, then you get everyone inside your top and sweaty during the game.

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It's Arizona.

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It's not sweaty.

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It's it's a dry heat.

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That's everybody.

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I said, you're going to Arizona, huh?

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Heard it's hot there.

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Dry.

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Oh, it's a dry heat.

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Don't be all right.

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Like one damn machine with dry heat.

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Yeah, that's like that's work talk that I cannot stand.

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Yeah.

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I don't really know. I think about your personality, but here's the fact I know about the heat

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in

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in Arizona.

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Oh, did you see Ryan Fitzpatrick on the football field? He went to Harvard.

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Yeah.

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It's totally okay to think he played basketball.

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So apparently the there's something about that too, about the

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the heat and Nevada. They're talking, they have like this like

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glass-like material, I guess, that lets in sunshine, but keeps out

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heat somehow. It's called glass.

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[laughter]

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You know, but the double-pane windows work.

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Andy, the heat transition.

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Don't talk to me about heat transition coefficients, all right?

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I study chemical engineering in college.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

How much do you use that in the daily basis?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Absolutely not at all.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's as much as I use my communication.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I can barely spit those words out, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But it's not glass, it's some like weird material.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's got cool though.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Cool.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Cool.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Speaking of heat though,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

this game was playing 86 degree heat with,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

it was something like 80 something percent humidity.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So it felt like, I think like the feel like temperature

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

on the field was like 95.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And the commentators had this story

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about Belichick putting garbage bags over the AC vents

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

in the locker room because apparently Miami would crank

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the AC in the opposing team's locker room.

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So that it felt the quote was as cold as a meat locker

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in there, which would kind of slow the guys,

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the opposing team in the second half

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because they didn't want to come back out

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into the heat from the cold.

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So yeah, it is.

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It's a city block.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You're going to have like that's a that's totally fair

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advantage and the Patriots should cut off the heat in the

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

visiting room locker room in Jules Stadium in December.

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Can you imagine the pushback that would have to be amazing?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I also think that the home team should be able to control

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the PSI and footballs too.

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You know, where's it stops, Steve?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Where does it stop?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Go fuck yourself.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But what do you think is worse?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like, Conbra is a record when it's super duper hot out,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and then it's like record when it's super duper cold out, too.

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Right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Because it's always been like just as much as they've

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struggled in the heat in Miami.

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And people make a big deal that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It makes us equally a big deal as how awesome he is when

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it's like really fucking cold out.

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You can find those numbers on pages down and see that info.

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Really?

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Slash search slash Brady.

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Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You got temperature here?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You can filter game by temp.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, so it's the game search that has it right now.

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But yes, it will be added to the Brady search as well.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So search slash games.

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There's a temperature slider.

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And you can figure out there--

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It's a fucking nerd, Andy.

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--for percentage.

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You can also do it by surface type, the Vegas line,

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and the overunder if you want as well.

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For the month or whether it was an overtime game

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or a game played after a buy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You said it just fucking throw this together.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, actually, that's only maybe half of them.

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You should.

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You should like put if they beat the Vegas over under or not.

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And like the spread.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, love to like look at games that they didn't be spread because they're like

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

crushes spread historically, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, in theory, you could do that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You could put games that they weren't favored and then whether or not they

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won or lost because you can search for you can filter by game results.

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Well, they're always favored.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think they're decent against the spread, but not like crazy.

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Cause they're always favorites.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They are favorites a lot of the time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Let's say if you're going to be betting NFL, you have to go dogs.

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You tell them.

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We'll they are 38 and 31 as underdogs.

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Patriots are 60% against the spread.

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It's pretty good.

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over what time period Tom Brady starts this article written in March 2019 that's

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pretty good yeah that is supposed to be 50 50 right theoretically right yeah

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all right speaking the dolphins I mean we've avoided this game prayer 20 minutes

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now. Yeah, I will say there was one thing that stood out to me in this game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right. Robert Edward signing. Yes. He was back. He was back. Like, as I

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understood it, Robert Edward suffered that knee injury, which they talked about

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on this, whereas he tore three ligaments and nearly severed an artery and almost

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

had to have his leg amputated playing a five football in the beach in the

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Pro Bowl after his rookie year. Yeah.

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We're like 1200 yards rushing had like 12 TDs.

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And then he never had yet. I have the.

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I remember I remember coming back.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Not last month. I never remember.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I didn't remember him coming back.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But he didn't last long, but I think he played a couple years with dolphins here.

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You look like in this game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, it was a kind of the third down back, which I feel like is almost how the

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Patriots use him in 99 to almost like the J. R. Redmond sort of thing.

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It wasn't like a bruiser.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But he ran for a thousand years.

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So maybe it was.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't remember.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, no, he was there number one back.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He was there a version of twan and Corey Dylan and all that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, maybe not Corey Dylan.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Let's pump the brakes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I just remember being so hype because he was so good as a rookie.

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And I was like, we finally found like our guy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You know, I felt that about my dad.

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Ricardo Martin to.

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Yeah, that too.

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Andy Katz and more.

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Dude, I have a Robert Edwards jersey.

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You do?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Uh huh.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, I love that jersey.

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Yeah, good job.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He gave it to me.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah, it does.

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They had--

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At the back side of the game, they were just

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like trying to fill time because it was to blow out.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know why I watch this whole game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I was stupid, but--

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[INAUDIBLE]

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They had a thing about--

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because they're going deep on Robert Edwards.

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And like how he had no ill will, but against the Patriots,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Robert Kraft, they called him up personally

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and like talked to him about it and said,

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you know, this is not something like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

there's no hard feelings,

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but it's just like a business thing.

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And he told me all that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think our cake, it gets a lot of credit like nowadays,

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like all that, but it's cool.

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Like this has happened a couple of times.

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When you look back at it, you see like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

it's not really, it's something they've always been

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

like a personality trader of value, right?

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Probably a lot of owners calling him up like that.

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- That's true, yeah.

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I mean, you don't really hear

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

ex-patriots come out with negative stories

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about their time on the Patriots.

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Even people like, you know, Michael Bennett,

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who wasn't here for very long

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and wasn't particularly well utilized.

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And people thought, you know, he was gonna be a distraction

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and he got traded and everything.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And he had absolutely no bad words to say about it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

some, but it's more about like how I was used or what I was asked to do or like that sort of thing.

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Yeah, yeah, there hasn't been any like, the analyst.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And locker room wasn't.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, Dion Lewis is probably the closest you can get.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dude, Gronk retired just to get away from the Patriots.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did he though? Or do you retire to get away from football?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know. It seems awfully coincidental that soon as Brady left, he's suddenly unretired.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Maybe. I said that wasn't the reason, but yeah,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

they're also allowing weed this year too.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That red you way.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Think it's weed.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, you always do it is pumping fucking CBD companies now.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So that's not weed, Andy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I understand that, but it'll still pop you for a test.

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I won't.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Have you ever even smoked doobies?

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Yes, you made me do it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, this is a great story time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I've not heard the story.

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- No.

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Father's Day, what was it like five, six years ago?

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- Yeah.

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- When we were all drinking in Portland, Maine,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and then like halfway through the drinking session,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Kelly was like, "Oh yeah, I have these hash brownies."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- There were cookies.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And yeah, and we're like, "Oh, we'll give something

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to my dad 'cause he's like a deadhead."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So it's like, "Yeah, we'll give something to him

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

as a present."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

not expecting him to like just eat it right then and there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But we're like here, happy father's day.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He just like pops when in his mouth and I was like, oh God.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I guess I guess we're all jumping on this train.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yep.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then Andy took one who and Andy claimed that he doesn't

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a weed doesn't affect him.

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Which spoiler alert turned out not to be true.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then like me and the dad and Kelly, my wife, we're all

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

super stoned walking around Portland.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then my mom showed up and at first we didn't tell her.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

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Which I don't know why we didn't,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

probably because they were like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

"Hi, a paranoid."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But we were acting so strange that eventually she's like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

"What is going on with you guys?"

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I was like, "Kelli drugged us."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But she was like, "I'm gonna thank God."

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(laughing)

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It was unbelievable.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You think that's the end of the story?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, I don't know how much you want to divulge, Andy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, no, let's look.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I mean, we're here now, right?

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May as well.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

OK.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, let's just finish the story then.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So we're all--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, tell it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The way I remember this was I remember that part,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but I remember that we didn't actually eat lunch

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

because there was no food in the condo because dad was there

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and he doesn't fucking do that sort of thing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So the cookies were lunch.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so I think I probably had more than one, which was a bad decision.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Looking back on it now.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And, you know, I felt fine all the way through.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then we were sitting at the bar underneath the condo.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's the top floor of a hotel and so the hotel bar there and we're,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I was eating a burger and I just like, I felt all the,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the color drain from my face.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like that's probably not good.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So I have mom walking me back to.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, sorry to interrupt,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but I remember this so distinctly,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

you like nudged my arm and you looked at me and you go,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm faded.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's like someone's gotta get in the out of here.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yep, that feels alright.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

'Cause all I remember is that it was a burger

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

with one of those pretzel buns.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm like, this is gonna be so good.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I was so like torn about whether or not I should leave it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But I realized I had to because I was fading fast.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So the walk was like maybe a hundred yards, not even,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

maybe 50 yards.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so we get in the elevator.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And the next thing, just me and mom,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

we get in the elevator,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

just taking me back to the condo.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And the next thing I remember is waking up,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

sitting down on the floor of the elevator

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

with mom very worriedly looking at me,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

asking me if I'm okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm like, yeah, I'm fine, why?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's like because you passed out

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and hit your head on the side of the elevator and sat down.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I feel okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then I went to the, we got back to the condo

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

without any more issues.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I immediately threw up and felt perfectly fine.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Dad threw up too.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think Dad also had more than one cookie.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think it was also lunch for him as well.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And to put this in perspective,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

our mom is like five, five, like 120 pounds.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, she's tiny.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. And meanwhile, Andy's like six, two, and she doesn't know that he's eating a

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

wheat cookie, right? So that she has no idea what's wrong with him. She was so scared.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I blame Kelly. I'm like, Kelly, give me drugs.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. And then like so dad had a similar experience where he had to go up to the room

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

early and he puked and went to bed early.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And Kelly was all sketched out because this was like early in our relationship.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

She's like, oh my God, your parents are gonna hate me, this and that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then we woke up the next day.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And that was like, that was the best father's day ever.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You puked.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Good Lord.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's how the idea for this podcast was born.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So speaking of devastating injuries, I found an article

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

talking about Robert Edwards and what actually happened to his knee. And this is the quote.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

"In a single moment without warning, Edwards has dislocated his knee while diving to knock down a

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

pass that afternoon. Dislocation, however, doesn't come close to explain the carnage that occurred.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Edwards' anterior cruciate, posterior cruciate, and medial collateral ligaments were all completely

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

torn. But fourth ligament was nearly shredded. In addition, he suffered severe nerve damage

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and a severed artery that had to be repaired immediately.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

One doctor said it looked as though Edward's knee had been hit by a hand grenade.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's what I don't understand is like, it's sand.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You think like to get a crazy tear like that, it would have to be like a hard impact.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Shouldn't sand be less of an impact?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But I mean, the worst ones always seem to be non-contact injuries.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like remember, Wes Walker?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, maybe it's like an angle thing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like if you come at a weird angle on the sand.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But I think it's like, it's stuck and the rest of your weight goes the other way.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I can see that maybe in sand.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Because, um, Edelman had the same thing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Remember in the pre-season against the lions.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, you just caught the ball.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

His leg landed wrong and just popped.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So disappointing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Kids who do heavies always as a, as a person with knee problems.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yep. Same here.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, can I can I transition from the weed story to my weed stories?

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I wish you would.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Ricky Williams.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

This is the player that we're deep diving into.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That feels appropriate.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The recently traded for, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They traded for?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They did.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

From the New Orleans Saints.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So this is his first season in Miami.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So fourth game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So I think, well, there's one really interesting thing that I did deep dive on like his initial

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

contract that he signed his rookie year.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So maybe I'll go over that first and then we can kind of talk about general things about

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

him after.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So 1999, he was a fifth overall pick by the Saints.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He just won the Heisman at Texas.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's putting up crazy numbers there, record setting, yardage, touchdowns, all that crap.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So when he got drafted, he's always been a bit out there, dude, anyways, but the whole

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

rap and sports scene was kind of merging, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So you had a lot of those guys hanging out with each other.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And they always say, "Every rapper wants to be an athlete and every athlete wants to

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

be a rapper. So this is kind of like the crossing of those

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

cultures. So there was a new sports agency in town in New

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Orleans called No Limit Sports. And this is the brainchild of

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Master P, the entrepreneur. So he had a record label that he

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

like was turning into a sports agency. Basically like the

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

original idea of Jay Z's like rock nation sports, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So up to this point, it was kind of just like NBA stars.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So Ron Mercer, Jason Terry.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Remember Ricky Davis from the Celtics?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The guy that infamously shot at his own hoop to get one more

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

rebound for a triple double.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's a legend.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's very much kind of like Ricky Williams.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did he actually get it?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The triple.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know if they gave him the stat though.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's what I was wondering.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

'Cause he did fucking worth it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, it's just so like blatantly fucking, you know?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So this is like a new agency, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They don't really have much experience on the staff,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but it's, yeah, they're basically trying to like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

stop getting screwed over by these crusty old white guys

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

that kind of control the sport, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So it's like a good idea in theory, which I think JZ is kind of like figuring out himself.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So in his rookie contract, what they ended up doing was this is actually Ricky

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

wanted it this way, where there's he wanted like as much money as he could get up front

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and then basically everything beyond that was incentive based.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So he signs a $8.8 million signing bonus

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and then the league minimum salary based salary

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

for five years.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then the incentives are worth up to $68 million

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

over the life of the contract.

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Damn.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right.

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However, here we come.

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These incentives were just fucking ridiculous.

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Some say it's like the worst contract ever.

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I'll just give you some, there was three types of bonuses he could get.

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So the first one was like rushing yards bonus.

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And it would give him like one to three million dollars based on like tiered yardage.

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So per season, but it started at 1600 yards.

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And then the three million was for like, if he sets the rushing record.

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So basically it's like he has to set the rushing record every year of his contract to get that full 68, right?

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Yeah.

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So he only hits that once in his career.

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Yeah.

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This year, 2002.

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Yeah.

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1853 yards.

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Yep.

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And then there was like the next bonus category was like all these like there was like 40 different.

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Uh, just weird things, you know, like, uh, you got to be a, this percentage of snaps.

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Oh, blah.

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But then some of them started getting ridiculous.

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Like NFL MVP.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Bowl MVP.

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One of them was 12 plus receiving touchdowns, which, which I guess no running

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back has ever done.

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I think the list of, uh, wide receivers that have done it in a season is probably

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not that long either.

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Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Exactly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, that's a great wide receiver year this year.

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Yeah.

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So then the other one I think is the most interesting

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was over after the fourth season,

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if he had like 6413 yards rushing, 7574 total,

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4.8 yards of carry,

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through into six, six points,

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they're all like these kind of like obscure numbers.

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And then people looked into it

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And basically it was the Terrell Davis bonus.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So those were the exact numbers that Terrell Davis had put in.

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All right, he had put up for his first four seasons.

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So the bonus was basically if you hit three of these four,

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you get that full bonus.

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(laughs)

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Jesus.

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- But how long was he on that contract, right?

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'Cause he was on the States for that long.

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I think he did three years at the Saints.

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I think it was a five year contract, if I'm not mistaken.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He did three years with the Saints.

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One, two, three, four.

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He did seven years Miami,

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and then one with Baltimore to finish it up.

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- I feel like the seven years Miami

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were probably one or two of those,

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at least he was out smoking weed into that.

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- So he won here.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- So he won here how many?

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- Well, seven, he played, but he skipped 2004,

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Miss season retired in 2006,

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Miss season violation of league substance abuse policy.

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So yes, you're right.

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You were tired to go smoke weed.

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Miss a couple of seasons.

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- No, I, all right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So let's get into this then.

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I love Ricky Williams.

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I'm just gonna say it right now.

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- All right.

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(laughs)

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- Dude, he's been completely unfairly maligned in the press.

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He didn't quit football to smoke weed.

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He quit football 'cause his body was deteriorating

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and he didn't wanna play anymore.

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And then he smoked weed.

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- I would agree with you if you hadn't come back

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for one, two, three, four, five years of playing

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after he retired twice.

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- I thought it was more like a Dave Shrepel situation

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where he was like, this is all a bunch of like

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corporate ass bullshit, like I'm just gonna be out.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, so I watched football life Ricky Williams.

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And it was basically like he was a workhorse in Miami.

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And then they had told them that they were gonna like

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revamp the offense, get a good quarterback.

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And they just didn't do that.

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And he's like, all right, I'm already beat up.

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And now I'm clearly gonna get a ton of carries

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and just get even more beat up.

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And he's always been a bit of like a eccentric guy.

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And he's like, all right, I'm not doing this.

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I'm leaving.

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I kind of respect that.

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You know, and even just watching this game, like he, he wasn't a shifty guy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He wasn't the priest's homes of the Danny Thompson.

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He was a bruiser.

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Yeah.

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And he even in this game, he took some shots that I don't think I would have gotten

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up from and he took a bunch of them.

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So I completely understand and agree with that decision.

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I heard someone say that like

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I think it was a Doug Stanhope stand up about it.

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And he's like, all he's really doing is what like normal people do.

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You always talk about if you win the lottery, what do you do?

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You quit your job, right?

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He's like, you got an $8.8 million signing bonus and he quit his job.

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You got to kind of respect them for it.

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Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, I'm a hundred percent behind that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I never, I never just like Ricky Lance on his buddies.

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No.

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And he's actually like pretty insightful guy too.

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So he's not like, yeah.

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He was a, he was an honor roll student all the way through school.

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Like all these coaches, like Mike, uh, Mike Dick, uh, Sabin,

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Parse sells all those guys.

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Absolutely love them and like vouch for them and stuff like that.

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Cause he's like, he's a thoughtful dude.

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Or he's kind of like an Aryan foster where he's, he's not just a football player.

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It comes in place, football.

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And I think in this time era, like that was kind of frowned upon where now

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He was starting to come more around to it being like all right thoughtful players. It's like kind of a good thing

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just I think he kind of got like

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Drag through the mud a little bit because everyone was like oh what a dope he gave up all his money

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And he's quitting and putting smoking weed

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But I think he was actually like a really thoughtful dude if you listen to him and like tried to understand his perspective

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Yeah, I agree with that

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think um the one thing you missed was his draft day

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Did you look at this at all?

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No, I don't think I.

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It was Ben.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So, and also his, you touched on it a bit.

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He did win the Heisman and his college stats.

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I'll just read him to you real quick.

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First year he ran for 990 yards eight touchdowns.

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Second year, 1200 yards and 12 touchdowns.

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Third year, 1800 yards, 25 touchdowns.

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fourth year, which I'm assuming is the one you won the

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thysmin 2,124 yards and 27 touchdowns.

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My god, ridiculous.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So that first one carries a priest's homes, right?

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Maybe we touched on this in the KC episode.

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Because they're at Texas at the same time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, that's right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They were weren't they?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So then maybe.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

God, that's a hell of a backfield.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, college football for you.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So in that last season, 98, he set the NCAA record for rushing yards in one

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the Heisman.

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Is that still standing?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, it got, it got broken in the year after by Ron Dain.

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Ron Dain of all people.

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That's a shame.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, so.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Uh, so he was like the highly touted running back coming out of the draft.

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like what's his name for the giants?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

This is a sake, sake one bar.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So he was like the sake one of the draft.

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And Mike Dicker was the head coach of the Saints at the time.

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Oh, I know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I did read about this.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so they decided that they really wanted Ricky Williams.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So they were going to trade up to get him.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so they traded with the Washington Redskins.

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and the Washington Redskins traded the fifth overall pick that the Saints would use to pick

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rickulians. The Saints traded and give me a minute here. The 12th overall pick, which was later

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traded Chicago where they selected K-Mingan. The 71st overall pick in this draft. The 107th overall

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pick, which is those are third and fourth round picks, their fifth round pick, which 144th overall,

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their sixth round pick, which is 179 overall, and their seventh round pick, which is 218th overall.

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So literally all but their second round pick, which I don't even know what they had.

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And their 2000, the year after, first round pick, which ended up being second overall,

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And the third round pick, which ended up being 64th overall.

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Who was the first round pick in that draft?

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LeVar Harrington.

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See? Yeah.

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Solid.

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Yeah. But he's a bum.

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I'll give you the names of the people that were drafted that weren't Ricky Williams.

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Kate McNown,

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DeWayne Bates,

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Nate Stimson,

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Kari Samuel,

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Desmond Clark,

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Billy Miller,

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Levar Arrington Lloyd Harrison.

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Who won that trade?

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Don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know.

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I might go with the same three years.

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And then they fired Dick a year later.

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They're like, bro, what are you doing?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You know winning games.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So and you may think that that's the best part of this.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But actually the best part was the ESPN magazine cover.

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Oh, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So here's the quote from Wikipedia.

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After the trade, Dickett and Williams appeared on the cover of the August 9th, 1999 issue of ESPN, the magazine,

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dressed as a bride in groom.

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Dickett agreed to the photo shoot as long as he wasn't wearing the wedding dress.

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We can have a mustache on your bride.

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Dude, the picture is phenomenal.

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Dude, he's the thickest bride ever.

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That dude.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I saw him interviewed about that too. He was so funny.

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He was like, Oh, I had no idea what to be a big deal. He's a guy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I just thought it'd be funny. And then they cut the video cut to like all

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these fans like scream at Adam like,

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about the dress back on.

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Welcome to the NFL, Ricky.

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And speaking of his his really thick arms.

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tying it back to this football game that we were supposed to be talking about.

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Oh, no, I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Back in the football game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, but this one's good.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I promise.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The commentators on Ricky Williams fumble

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blamed on the fact that he has a hard time tucking the football in because his arms are too muscular.

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It makes sense.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's why Shaq can't shoot free throws.

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Yeah, you just couldn't tuck it hands to me.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. Yeah.

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That's why I don't work out.

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Better ball security.

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Yeah.

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two. And free free throw percentage. What is your

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percentage? Dude, I'm a sick free throw shooter. It's fucking

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zero. No, I don't. I consistently shoot in the 80s. Uh huh.

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In my backyard. Yeah. On your nerve hoop. I've probably

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only ever taken like 15 to 20 in real life. I looked up the

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called football Russian leaders in a single season. Oh yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You were wrong Greg. Ron Dane is 17th. Oh, Wikipedia was wrong.

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Ricky Williams is single season or career?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Single season. Yeah, we're talking about career.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, now that the Ricky Williams he set the single season.

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All right. I thought. 2,100 yards.

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I think he has the most career though. Yeah. At the time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Anyway, any guesses at number one and two well, where is Ricky Williams? You third 15

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15th, yeah, oh God

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Barry Sanders is probably up there. That's all thinking but he would have been before

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, Barry Sanders number one still

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28 in 1988

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You say well Barry Sanders came out. So how did he set the record? I don't know saying maybe it was for total

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I

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Failing us right now and yeah, it was it was probably totally handy must have been yeah

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number two is

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Like 60 yards behind him and he's an active player

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active player

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Oh Kareem high. Nope. New deal Peterson. Nope

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It's not someone you think

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Is it a is it a power five?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I don't know the power five is but it's a big school James White

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No

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School assigned a new deal with a new team this year. What was the school?

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Wisconsin oh

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The dude that just got drafted

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, no, you just signed a new deal with a new team. He held out recently as well. Oh

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Oh god damn it

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the guy you play for the Vikings?

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No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, fuck.

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I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Who is it?

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Melvin Gordon.

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No shit.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Only 587 and 2014.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Wow.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Wait, wasn't he on the same team as James White?

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That was constant.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I might be making that up.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm not a college football guy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'll pay attention with all the pages.

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Reggie Bush.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Landale White.

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All right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So favorites.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

OK.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, do we want to do?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Do we have any other thing worth talking about this game?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Our scheme was awful.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I only took like 10 notes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I didn't watch it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

We know first start for Jarvis Green. I guess that was cool.

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All right. Well, how about you? Give me your best or worst?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Can you give me a best? Can you give me a best?

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Okay. That touchdown throw, you know, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Kind of towards the end of the second half.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, it's right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, it's right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, they're both a bad.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, but actually, I think it was right at the beginning of the second half where they, yeah, because they put the bags on the thing.

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Yeah, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And they came out and they threw that nice, you know, patent was kind of, you know, a little OPI to get open, but

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they were hand fighting. I think that was even

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whatever.

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It was a great route though.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You got open.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, he was wide open.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, that was a great, that was a great touchdown.

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I think the other one was good too, just him going up and fighting for the ball.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was like the Zach Thomas blade and absolute lumber on Kevin

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Falk, which is the football part of me and appreciated that.

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That's fair.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So do you have a singular worst?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

There was a triple cover interception by Brady in the second and the first half

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

of the second quarter where he's just like, was like 10 yards.

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Like a just awful, awful, awful throw.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like what?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What do you I thought his other interception was of course.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And the fourth quarter we got picked off at the Miami 10 yard line.

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You're like, I don't know who that one's to.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think we're all either.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Cause that was a, no, it was just a bad ball.

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You already can't.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You can't throw the deep ball, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Steve.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That wasn't even a deep ball.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was like 20 yards in the air.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was bad.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's, it should have been like out of the 30 or 10.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You threw it 20.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Steve, it's a, your whole like language and the way you talk

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Brady now. It's very disappointing to me.

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It's a noticeable change. I think.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, he deserved in this game. I

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didn't see it.

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It was a mistake.

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Great.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They awful in this game. I will call it when I see it.

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You know, I'm always very honest.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I still loved on Brady. I hope he

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still love him as well.

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I hope he doesn't get to play this season because the season

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doesn't get played and then he comes back to the Patriots.

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I agree.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Do you have any best and worst?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, I didn't watch the game. We know

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That's a worse just

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Look at my notes here

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Is a is a good quote

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I read about Ricky Williams said some people some people say drugs ruined Ricky Williams career, which is not true

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Drug testing ruined his career

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[LAUGHTER]

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Let's see, worst.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So that Terrell Davis bonus, those four things he had to hit.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, he didn't hit a single one.

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No.

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Ever?

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No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, well, I mean, over-- so any-- so that was like a four-year span, right?

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Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

There's only five players since like the 80s.

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Four players that have ever hit it over any four

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four years span in their career.

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Real Davis, obviously.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Barry Sanders, Emmett Smith and Marshall Falk.

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Basically like, hey, you gotta be a hall of famer.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You don't make any money.

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- Yeah, basically.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, I mean, he thought he would be, I guess.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

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- Rep 2,000 yards, fuck it, right?

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How can it be?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He was also drafted by the Phillies.

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He was a two sport athlete.

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No, sure.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like all those dudes are.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, apparently, Dan Marino was.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I saw something today about Dan Marino being,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

oh, he went like 14 and 0 as a pitcher.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And apparently,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

well, his coach came to the mound to ask him,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

you know, like he was in a jam or something,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

coach came to the mound.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's like, so what are we gonna do?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's like, well, you're gonna shut up

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and I'm gonna finish this sort of thing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, it damn reno is kind of asshole apparently

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's like me. I'm like a field general in the mid-field and soccer and I shoot like 87% from the line

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I don't think it's like you at all. Yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Appreciate that but no

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You're right. I'm more of a three sport athlete

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dare I ask what that third sport is God, you know, I'm sick of beer pong. I'll fucking take I'll take anybody at this party

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Literally like your point moment crack. I know you have one my favorite beer pong moment. Yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So good question

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Food's ball moment.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- All right, let's hear it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Back when I had our old member, our old table we used to have.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And I brought it with me to college.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Which was an amazing, amazing idea, by the way.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Oh, I bet.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Remember, I fit that in Chewie.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I took all the poles out and fit that fucker

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

in the minivan, drove it down.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Good Lord.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And I was playing a ton, a ton.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I was playing all the time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I got wicked good at it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then Greg came to visit me at college,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

like maybe two years after I had it there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And we were playing in that house, Greg,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and I let him go up like eight to two,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and I beat him 10, eight.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughs)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Let him go up.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I was like, he had a couple of cheesy goals.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I wasn't really trying.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I was like, did I not even have my moves yet?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughs)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I didn't like, pull it all out.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I was like, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- This is the most brotherish story.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, the fact that you're so--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- You practiced for two years and you beat me by two goals.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, but I want you to be like,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

you know, you're the top of the walk.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- You crush your soul though, you crush your hope.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah. - It's worth it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'd probably beat him the next game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Nope.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I'll agree with you.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- What's your best beer pong story?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I was just trying to think,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I can't, there's nothing that really comes to mind.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, I remember one story of, you remember Stefan?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Steve, like he was like super black

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

that'll play in beer pong.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I remember him like falling asleep

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

with his sitting down with his face on the table

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and it's something like nudged him.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And he just like wakes up and just like instinctively throws it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And it was like the last company got it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then just like passed out again immediately.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was like a quality fucking like 90s movie, you know?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But for foosball, I had the hammer

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

When I take it from my forwards and I pass it between him,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

tak tak tak.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then I fuck a spang.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Oh yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And he's like, "You don't have the hammer got you again?"

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Uh huh.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail, Andy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- This is.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Bang, bang, bang.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- This is why it took so much pleasure in beating him.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, exactly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- He was saying that exact same thing,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the hammers have been around for 10 years.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, exactly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- He's saying the same thing when we were playing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And I, I didn't say.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- If you played them now, we'd still say it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And then I did that move, you know,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Instead of passing it in between your guys, you can just put it on like the guys left foot and you just like do that

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

We're all loop the loop with that same dude and get behind it and slam it in the corner

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

See this is what you need a name for your moves Steve because no one knows what you're talking about a

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Loop a loop. I got yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right, well then you got to start consistently calling it to look to look all right. I'll call the correct Peter

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's not even clever pretty good

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And he likes it. All right, so my my best and worst

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

We we really have avoided this game almost completely that's how it should be

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was zero if you can't hear

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Expecting us like I don't know your dolphins fan UK

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Mary expecting us to like actually talk about this game you you're severely disappointed and for that I say good

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What we talked about Ricky Williams, so that's actually a dolphin's family

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

listen to this for like some sort of karmic whatever bullshit like they they got what

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

they deserved. Yeah. I don't know. That great story about Father's Day. So I will not.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think my my best in this game came in garbage time like he was talking about. But he picked

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

a different story. So I'm going to pick this one. They went on probably a good two, three,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

maybe five minute conversation about Teddy Bruski

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and how he plays the Alto saxophone?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Really?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- So apparently he played it in high school

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and was on the varsity marching band

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but then had to choose because he's also in varsity football

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and he couldn't do ball at the same time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He had to choose football or saxophone.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so he chose football obviously,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but still plays his saxophone.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Well, I could just like run out there at halftime.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But let me say it is uni.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, so you did watch it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's exactly what they said.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did he do it?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did he wear his cleats?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, see, I could do it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, remember it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was bad as they are.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Elle's our sister used to do band.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And these are like band camp.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And she's to come back and be like, oh, band camp was so tough today.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They made us march for like three hours.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I said, eat shit, Kelly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

OK, I'm a real athlete.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Just came from fucking.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

soccer practice. Yeah. Yeah. What is that? Kelly. I guess it's just yeah. It's just

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

second nature. Yeah. It's just so often. So my worst in this game. I'm sure it was tough

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

though. They had to wear the big old get-ups and carry around tubas. Yeah. That description

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

dad put in the Christmas letter about their March in the Macy's Day parade was ridiculous.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What was it? You call it like a freezing death march while I picked the New Yorkers

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

sneered at him and shit. He has a way with words that one. Oh, that's awesome.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I found this dad interesting. It's not a best or worse, but Tom Brady had a 66% completion percentage,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

which was the second highest behind Kurt Warner since 1970, which I'm guessing at this point has

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

probably been broken. Because that doesn't seem very high. That's pretty. I'm pretty sure Drew

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Breeze's like career completion, which is like 70 something percent. We don't talk about

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

True breeze on this podcast. Okay. He apologized. He's uh, he's turning a corner. It's okay

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, and then the other step that I could touch that one. Nope

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

We're moving on the other staff that I found her sing was um, they showed a list of

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Miami dolphins most 100 yard rushing games in a season

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And remember this is make a quiz out of it. The trivia. This is week five, right? So um

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You won't get number one because I never even heard of them

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Delvin Williams back in 1978, right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So, Ricky Williams, tie for second.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Now, that guy had five in 1978.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Ricky Williams, tie for second with three other people.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Can you name any of them?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Are they within the last 20 years?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- One is this, two of these are kind of this sort of timeframe.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

One was late '90s, one was 2000, and then one was 1972.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Larry Zonka is the only two.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Correct.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Four.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Late '90s and early 2000s.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dolphins running backs.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Think of last season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I didn't watch that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I did watch the other game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He looked exactly like Antoine Smith as well.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I brought him up every time that he was on the screen.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Looked up.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I can't do this.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

even

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

now

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

even chair last night

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

well

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

remember dolphins on the backs of the mar smith

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

that's really he's that old

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

i thought he was more recent than that

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but he'd be out and i don't think you'll get this one either

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

kareem of dole jabar in nineteen ninety six oh shit that's a name for a

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Right. So all those, all those four players, including Ricky Williams, had 400 yard Russian

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

games in a season. By the way, this is 2002, week five.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Basically, he just run for his 400 yard game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Wow. So he did four and five games.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. It's a great year. This is best year as a.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I have like 1,800 yards this year.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It was amazing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. Do the Dolphins make the playoffs this year?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They do not.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Nope.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Who from the AC East made it?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And New York football jets.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Mm hmm.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

There's three-way tie for first.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And then the bills are eating eight, too.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, this was like a real, real time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The pass for the tie for first?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's why I hate Red Fire.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I hate Red Fire because of the season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So, well, yeah, we'll get to this whole thing because it was like, it was like multiple

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

tiebreakers at the end.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, a lot of my hatred.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

This is like no.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- The final moment of the season is,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

if Brett Favre--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- It's not this season, Steve.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Stop.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- We would have been in the playoffs.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- It's not this season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's the season they had with Castle that he did that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Really?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Really, Andy?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I feel like I've hidden Brett Favre forever, though.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I think Brett Favre, I think Chad Pennington

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

had something to do with both of the times

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

at the Patriots in this playoffs.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, the breath five thing is when he at the end of his career, when he was on the Jets.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And we needed him to be like the Colts or something.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And he couldn't do it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I believe it was, I believe it was actually the Dolphins with, um,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

chat Pennington or something like that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, that would make sense.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That doesn't really sound like me rooting for the Jets, even if that means we get in the playoffs.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's what it ended up being, I think.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, and then it wasn't great.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You guys, even desperate times call for desperate measures.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I watched that game at your house, Andy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know why I remember that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

There's something to do with a QB sneak

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

that Farrv couldn't get,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and we're all like, "Oh, fuck it, asshole."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- That feels familiar.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah. Let me guess.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Ryan Sawyer was there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That fucking prick.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- He deserved it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Why do you hate Breff Farrv?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Well, I think I never really liked him,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

but then I hated him after that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I like him.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- That was like way early, and I've always hated him.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Wranglers real comfortable

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Good he's he just like to have fun. Yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Just playing back air football. He he's one of the best ever do it

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

If he actually imagine if he had like Brady's work ethic

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, God, he would have been like the best quarterback that's ever lit you could say about a bunch of guys

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You can say about Ryan.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He, Ryan Malant had all the physical tools.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Ryan Leif had all the physical tools.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You know, approach the game like Tom Brady.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Maybe they would have been.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No approach like how hard they were.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

This is like Brett Farf.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, Brett Farf.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Brett Farf had way more natural skill than Ryan Malant.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He just didn't give a shit.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's like for like Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He gave the least amount of shit.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

about just like, you know, off season workouts, that kind of thing.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Maybe Big Ben, I'll throw Big Ben in there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's kind of sad.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

There's got to be somebody else.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Big Ben's a good candidate.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dude, Brett Favre showed up like 30 pounds overweight to his rookie season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Is that where I got traded from the Falcons?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was like a big part of it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Probably.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So speaking of Big Ben, did you see that he is now unblocking people on Twitter?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So we preemptively from the Page of Dinesy podcast blocked Ben Roffensberger.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Well, you should at first like just send him a picture of his own face.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

See, see how he likes that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Because what is he going to do?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Blocky for saying it's offensive?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's your face, dude.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm gonna be all unblock him

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Unblock him send him a picture of the ugliest picture of his face that you can find and then all right

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So we may have to crowdsource this because I think there's a lot of ugly pictures of his face out there

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I know yeah, okay next time we get one where he's you shaved half his face

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yes, the other half of a beard. I think that looks good

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think you'll see a lot of people doing that in the coming years

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Just like the other time I tried to start a trend with inside out t-shirts that never took off

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay, I was trying to piggyback the hipster thing of like I don't need like to show my brand

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So just turn all my t-shirts inside out

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And I was like just you wait guys. This is gonna catch on

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Never did I'm still hoping you try to bring back the ball cut again. No, nope

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's you may have to spearhead that one

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

so I

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Think you're all very deep. I think you're all sleeping on the

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the the guy who was actually

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Named class trendsetter in high school. Do you wear what? No, you weren't

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I have the yearbook to prove it. Do they just give everybody an award or no?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They did not but this was the time where I was wearing that red spiky backpack in the house

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh my god, I think it's a lot of fear, but I was gonna be the column buying kid more dude. I think people liked you Andy. I

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Don't know more than you all right. Let me reference. I don't know why

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Exactly. Oh, that's because you hate yourself. Yeah, I did. I know longer

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Beautiful beautiful man. Hey, I love lots of offer Andy. I love you spikes and all I love you more than I love Steve

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's for sure. I've ever told you that

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

My wife almost stopped dating me when she first saw the backpack

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Why you had to call her best friend and say is it judgmental if I don't date him because of this?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I hope she didn't see the hat then that match it. No, she hadn't seen that yet

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Backpack was sweet. Did you buy in England? I believe I did. Yeah, it was for those that don't know it was like a red

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's like a latexy rubber that had it was just a regular backpack and it was like a thermo form like shaping

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, and it just had like three inch red

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Rubber spikes coming off of it. Yeah, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Thank you like the ninja turtles. I don't know one of those bad guys had like a spiky shell back

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That kind of idea. Yeah, that's what it looked like and then you had a ski hat that was like

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Almost identical. Yeah, it's like the what the snowboard is used were at the time and it had it black hat with red

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, did you wear that metal band Andy we weren't wearing this this key hat while you're sitting in class? I

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Don't think I was allowed to I'd take it off into the classroom

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dude liquid fetus the greatest rock band

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Had ever was that never was yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm pretty sure we may have we may have promised Mike that we wouldn't mention liquid fetus, but cats out of the bag now

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, talk about trend setting, you know, naming your bands after blended up babies.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I didn't care to mention what the debut album was titled.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What was it titled?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, it's called in the womb.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the womb. Yeah. Well, did you have like the future albums titled out?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, that was just one of the names of the songs that we see.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

We're gonna go on dude.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The second album, "Breeching the Canal."

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

If there was a second album, we probably would have come to you for

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

naming.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Their album is in the blender.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah. Oh my God.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

umbilical separation.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, by the third album, we're all acoustic anyway, so it

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

wouldn't it wouldn't work.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Speaking of bad football, my worst in this game, bringing it

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

all back was the pages tried their beloved direct snap to

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Kevin Falk.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And it didn't fucking work.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It didn't work.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's a didn't work bad game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, when that that was a staple for me to triangle did

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Selling yeah, was that right before you through the worst egg maybe he's ever thrown to I think it could have been yeah

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Thought I wrote down this Dave once dead it is yeah, I

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Actually did a decent job against Patriots. Yeah, it's only five and four against him against his

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I see your once a year Miami.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And the true.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I actually the average.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Has an obvious.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You see the list.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Caution.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But I remember seeing him and thinking, oh, that was all right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Cause usually all those guys are all jackasses.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You know, yeah, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's true.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Half time show.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Old coaches.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The worst.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The worst.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did how have they not figured that out?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Everyone hates them, you know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- You don't even need anybody.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Just show me like just binge me highlights

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

from the rest of the game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I mean, like think about what happened

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

to like Monday night football

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

where they rotate through people

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

'cause they just get murdered online.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Why are we not doing the same for halftime?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Those guys are even worse than bugger.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Maybe they have like ironclad contracts

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

or something, I don't get it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Maybe.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I don't know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- They should put us up there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- They should put them on the Ricky Williams contract.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Here's a big signing bonus.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You don't have these incentives.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Cause you're fucking out.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, how you talking?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Gotta make the brown brothers laugh.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Ooh, they should start with 17 people

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and then let the fans vote off one each time.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Each week.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- That would be an absolute shit show.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Wouldn't it be awesome?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Like think of ideas like that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

People would watch for that, right?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I would. - I still think

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

what they should do is what the Premier League did

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

for a while in English soccer, where they would have a very small booth.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And in it, like, because in England, they had like a multitude of channels

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

that were showing the same game. It was like a prime time game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And so you could switch each one like one had like no commentary and one had

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the regular commentary and one would let us like follow a certain play around

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the field for a certain amount of time and switch players.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

But one of them, every once in a while was they would get a fan of each team

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

and have them commentate the game together.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And that was electric.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Couple of daf Kuntz.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I imagine even just like do it with baseball.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I know, but like I think part of the failing part of the appeal is British people are just so funny.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's true, but I guarantee you could you could find some funny.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You asked us to do it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think they have done that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Although, you know how like Amazon Prime got some games last year?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They would they would have like six different announcers

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

on the line stream.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dude, I watched an entire Patriots game in Spanish.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's fucking awesome.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Didn't know what they were saying, but I was loving it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Didn't matter.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I've heard it in German too.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I've seen some streams in German.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's actually been really good.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, because you could like pick out random words.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So you kind of know what they're talking about.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, you can get the gist.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They're very excitable.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

And you can see when they're getting excited,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

you can hear it in their voices, it's fucking great.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, it's awesome.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I used to, when I was playing like FIFA and stuff,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I used to put the commentary on Spanish.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Or a different language.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Just to see if I would learn a different language.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Spoiler alert.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Did it work?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Bueno Stardice, me and you just--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What was that?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Nest 10, J.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Go lasso.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

See, where'd be at in grass?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, what were you talking about?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I interrupted you there.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't think I was talking about anything.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He had a once dead story.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You were saying?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, he's just going to say that the Patriots games when they played once that team, the average

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

score was 17 to 17, which seems pretty fucking even to me.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The fact they were fighting for against them.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So so so if you had to pick out one factor that's causing the

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Patriots to play so poorly in Miami, what do you think it is?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I see it's the early season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

They always suck in the early season.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Plus the heat.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, that's true because yeah, they always seem to like slowly ramp up the first

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

four weeks.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So if they plan in the first four weeks, that's not usually.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'd love to see the, like, I guess, like the Patriots record in Miami by month or by temperature, you know, so bet.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

As I get started, like that home field dissipates. I mean, at least in the Brady era. Clearly.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

You know, you can find that Steve Brown.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Um, that stats over storylines podcast. I bet they have it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, it's actually go fuck yourself Steve Brown.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Oh, see if that exists right now.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And over in tuckusack.com.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Wasn't that your wedding website Greg?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

(laughing)

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- The picture is in good one Andy.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Like the Patriots in Miami.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Neither of those in Oakland.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- September and October are five and four.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

So that blows your thing out of the water.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- That was still not great.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

want to hear mine.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Where are they in December?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Still winning record.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Hang on, just December.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Or November, December.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

In December, they are--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

[LAUGHTER]

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, there's seven games.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Anybody want to guess their records?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

7-0.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I have four.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

One in six in December in Miami.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The pads are?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The Patriots are.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Since now--

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I guess it's not the EAT then there is.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

it's Steve. Oh, I mean, I can see my theory. Yeah. I think I usually don't buy into these

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

things with professionals, but I think it's like a mental like confidence type thing. Yeah,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

right. You this like, I think going into games, thinking you can win is like big towards being

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the Patriots, right? You saw it with the Ravens and they would always come in and you'd

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

be like, play them tough because you got the feeling that they knew they could win those

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

games. Whereas other teams would be like, like the Bills, they just roll over and let

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

the Pats rub their tummy, you know? And I think once you get a couple strung together,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

we're now it's a thing the media is talking about. All players hear that shit and they're

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

like, you know what, we can win this game. We always, we always win this game. I think

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

it doesn't matter what we've done the rest of the season. This is a game we always end

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

of winning. Yeah, and you can say if you want in the media, but you deep down somewhere,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I think it affects their play of like maybe they're not as aggressive, maybe the play

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

calling slightly different, but I think that plays a factor.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's a good point, right? Because if you think about the three worst games we've watched

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

after this point is the two games in Miami and it's the one game in Denver. Yeah, true.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

By far, like those three have been stand out bad.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

The other ones have been at least closer.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I just cracked the code, Bermuda Triangle.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's not re-outs in your head.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- And on that note,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

should we look forward to next weekend?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, next weekend.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Oh, how's it going?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Yeah, okay, who we got?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Who we got?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Sunday, October 13th, 2002.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

This is at home.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I got it. - Of actually,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

after two weeks on the road,

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

versus the Green Bay Packers.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Steve Brown's favorite quarterback coming to town.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Really?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- This is correct.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Biggest inquiry.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

He's not my least civic quarterback.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- This is in Green Bay?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- No, it's at home.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Wow, I have no recollection of this game.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I don't even know.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- I might actually watch this one.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

- Okay.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

No, he won't.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's a little alert.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Pranglers.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Real.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Comfortable.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

James.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Is it a two day next week?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Find out if Greg actually watched the game or not.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What else do I had other homework?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

What was I going to do?

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Something about the.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Dolphins win record at home.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Oh, yes.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yep.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'll report on that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Okay, I hope so I can't wait

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

All right, I can't either Andy I'm also very excited. Yeah, no, I look forward to that with beta breath

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I'm sure you will come through and you will actually do the research and the homework and watch this football game all in a week

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I have faith in you

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Can't tell if you're fucking with me

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

That's the idea

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I could hear you smiling when you said that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I could hear your smile.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I don't know what you're talking about.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

It's more like a smile.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Yeah, I know that.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

I know that fucking sound when I hear it.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Alright, I love you boys.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins

Hey, Elayda.

2002 Week 5: Patriots at Dolphins