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2002 Week 8: Patriots vs Broncos

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We're officially in the dog days of the 2002 season as the Pats host the 5-2 Broncos as they attempt to stop their losing streak (spoiler alert: they don't). Patience is running thin for the team and your podcast hosts. In this episode we touch on:


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Episode Transcript

Welcome back to the dregs of the 2002 season on the Patriots Dynasty podcast. Dog days of summer. Yeah, literally and figuratively, I think. Yep. Struggling through the longest losing streak of the Patriots Dynasty. This is 2002 week eight hosting the Denver Broncos. Do you just want to get it out the way? They don't win this one either.

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and Broncos back in the early 2000s. It's kind of a given. How many Lombardis? Five? That's what you rate in this game that you didn't watch? Five out of six? I asked you how many Lombardis. Oh, I thought you said five Lombardis. No, I didn't watch it. No kidding. Two? I'm going to go two. You're going to give it that many? Yeah, I mean, not the worst.

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This is his first full season as a starter. 25 years old calling out teammates like that. I think it's a different media world back then though. Maybe. He says that now. That's going on. The talk radio, Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharper are just going to shout out each other about it for the next two weeks. Shannon Sharper, speak of the devil. Yes, he is in this game. Correct, yeah. He actually played really well. Yeah, look how far he's following.

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Do yourself a favor, keep it that way. Me either. I'm going to go out and say I like Colin Cowherd, though. Yeah? Yep. Yeah, you said that in the last episode. Give him another try. I know he's kind of a Fire Flames hot take guy, but give him another try. I don't like any of them. Rodney Harrison's it. Yeah. Mike Florio. He doesn't really have any takes. He's just like, here's the facts.

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He's a nerd. Yeah. You can throw Mike Reese in there too. Mike Reese is like very much a here's a well reasoned take. Well, that's not going to get you clicks, is it? No. Chris Sims. Quick, Greg, quick. Give us a hot take. On. I just did. Anything. I don't care. I just said Shannon Sharp is the worst analyst in all the sports. It's a pretty hot take. All right. I can clip that. We'll put that in there. We'll tag him in it too.

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Let's see what he says. He'd be like, what the fuck? This goddamn podcast calling me out? I'm going to destroy them. That would probably be the best thing that ever happened to us, you realize. Oh, for sure. Because then Troy Brown would know who we are and my life would be complete. Yeah, that's true. You want to do your weekly call out now at this point? If anybody knows Troy Brown to introduce him to this podcast. Yes, please. That would be amazing.

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All right, so that segment's over with. What's next? Remember for Christmas, my girlfriend got me a Malcolm Brown jersey because she knew I loved the Troy Brown and Malcolm Brown was on the Patriots and she just like looked it up and said, oh, Brown. Wait, really? Yeah, I have a Malcolm Brown jersey sitting in my closet. That's a pretty deep cut. I mean, it's pretty legit if you were to wear that out, but. Great idea, poor execution. Yes, I agree.

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Is that why you're not together anymore? Mm-hmm. You don't know me. Really, you thought you knew me, but you don't. Everybody who loves me knows how much I love Troy Brown because of a package deal. I mean, that's fair. Well, except for her. Well, what you gonna do? Mm-hmm. I mean, we could talk about this game.

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Yeah, this is the Mike Shanahan error. This is right in the midst of it, yeah? He was 95 to 2008, is Mike Shanahan? Something like that. Do you think he's a good coach, Andy? Yeah. Okay, good. He's a winning record against Belichick's Patriots. Did you see? He's an excellent coach. Yeah. The commentator was saying that him and Brian Greasy don't talk at all. Is that what they're saying? Because I missed,

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Interception or Fumble Recovery? Yes. INT. Both? Yeah, yeah, both. The prime time on YouTube is only two minutes and 30 seconds. That's not very long. Of which, like, 45 seconds is him talking about the game, so I didn't see many plays, no. To answer your question. Did he watch the whole thing? Yeah, of course. Did I watch it all two and a half minutes? Yes. Of course. How dare I question your track record?

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He wins back-to-back Super Bowls. Right. The salary cap, right? I don't know. That's when John Elway retired right after that one. Right. He only has one losing season until 2007. So 12 years, he has one losing season. He's a pretty damn good coach. Yeah, especially with Elway retiring. That's a tough transition. Andy, I'm fucking greasy as quarterbacks. That was the only year.

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Yeah, if you're going six and ten, you probably lost a bunch in a row. And Mike Shanahan's record with running backs is just like hilarious. Oh, yeah. When did Clinton Portis get traded for the first round pick to the Redskins? 2003? It has to be pretty soon. Because they had, there was a Mike Anderson sighting in this, and they immediately went right to Mike Anderson, and he would crush it just as much as Portis.

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That's still solid. It was like one of those situations where you could literally plug in anybody. Anybody, yeah. That's what it felt like, yeah. And this year's plug-in was Clinton Portis because he was a rookie, and the reason he was even starting was Terrell Davis retired in the preseason, kind of like out of the blue, kind of like a gronk thing. And so they drafted. You said he was in the second round, Clinton Portis? Wait, Terrell Davis just wasn't having fun anymore? That's what it sounds like.

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I mean, he wasn't winning Super Bowls every year, right? Yeah. Poor guy. Terrell Davis is a pretty good story. Six-round draft pick, he put up like insane numbers. Hall of Fame, right? Just not very long though, right? Right. I think he was like one of those guys where the Hall of Fame debate rages on. He had a really short career. I think he's in. I don't remember. Stat check? Stat check. He...

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I don't think so. He only played 1995 to 2001. Right, that's what I mean. He only played four years. Yeah, because he was injured for one of them, right? He was injured from 1999, 2000, and 2001. He never played more than eight games. But 95. He had 1,100 yards, 1,500 yards, 1,700 yards, 2,000 yards.

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Right. So for like four years, he like lit the world on fire. Yeah. And then one year, I remember us talking about it last season because I don't know if he was playing or not, but they were saying that, oh, I don't think he was playing. No, he wasn't. But they said he had some like unspecified leg injury and that's all they knew or something like that. It was something really kind of weird in the way they talked about. It was a little creepy. That's kind of crazy. You think about it. Tom Brady never faced Terrell

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Davis. That's true. Despite playing the Broncos at least his first two years. We have migraines too, right? Remember we had a migraine in the Super Bowl? Oh, was that him? Yeah. Remember those stories? He couldn't see straight when he scored one of his touchdowns? Oh, that's crazy. Can you imagine? I get a regular headache and I'm like, I can't work today. You don't get migraines. That's what I'm saying. I don't even get

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I have migraines a day off of work. Actual headaches. And he's scoring touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I wake up hungover and I'm like, I can't work today. That's what I was saying. I wake up hungover and I just spend 80% of the day in the toilet and then still just... Still on the clock. Still on the clock. Working from home, baby. Yep. Austin makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I'm shitting on company time. That's right.

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No, I'm at the age now where I wake up and I've pulled something just sleeping. You probably got night terrors, huh? No, actually one night I tried to roll over and so I pushed my hand down on the bed to push myself over and it felt like I tore all the muscles in my pecs on one side. Wait, can we bring this back to how terrible Shannon Sharp is? Wait, wait, wait. I had something to talk about.

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That doesn't pique your interest at all. You can blow your load while you're sleeping. Walking is just regular. Because you're asleep. If you take Ambien, that does some weird shit. Yeah. People have got acquitted for murder or sexual assault by claiming that they are sleepwalking. I can see that. I used to work with a buddy who took Ambien, went to sleep and woke up, and he had

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Somehow taught himself how to use a 3D modeling program and 3D modeled the duck. And he went back in. He didn't know how to do it. He doesn't know how to use a program, but somehow in his sleep managed to do it. Yeah. I listened to a podcast on sleepwalking the other day. That's why it's in my mind. Shout out other podcasts. Yeah. Can we shout out a podcast here? Free ad for stuff you should know. You ever listen to that one? I've heard that one. Yeah. You would love it, Andy. That's

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That's your sense of humor. Oh, you think so? Yeah. What are you trying to say? I don't know. They're just kind of like nerds, but they're... Fuck you. Oh. Josh. Can we please talk about how shitty Shannon Sharp is? Yes. Steve, give me your Shannon Sharp take. Is he better or worse than the Jets? Nothing's worse than the Jets. Regardless. When he scores that touchdown, and... You know how I'm going with this. So he scores,

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his touchdowns. It was actually a pretty nice play. He tapped his toes in the back of the end zone. And then he goes to his shoes and the tongue of the shoe, he peels it off and has some writing on there. But he can't peel it off. It takes him five fucking minutes. And it takes him two tries, yeah. Yeah. I don't remember what was said on there. It's so small the cameras can't read it. Yeah. It's like 7.5. I don't remember what was on there. No. Because it wasn't even like, it was almost like supposed to be part of his name, but it wasn't.

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He's like Terrell Owens, but just shitty. Yeah, it's like he's trying to be Terrell Owens, but he wasn't good at it. When was the Joe Horn thing? The Joe Horn Sharpie thing. Stat check, I got you guys. Because that will kick this off. Terrell Owens Sharpie did.

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Joe Horn start this. He did the phone in the... Yeah. Well, speaking of that one too, that was 2003. Interesting. So it's right in the middle of all that. So this is before this. Yeah. Well, Terrell Owens. What? The Sharpie was the first one? Don't ask that bitch, Alexa. 2002. Huh. So this is 2002 as well. October 2002, which is... So this is... Before all that.

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It was the worst to ever do it. His execution was shit. It's all about the execution. Yeah, I haven't seen the popcorn in the face thing. Remember that? Oh, yeah, that's great. Wasn't there something with a cheerleader too? The pom-poms. Yeah, grab the pom-poms. The kneeling on the Dallas star. Oh, yeah. We got tackled for it. This was like peak celebration time. That's what I'm saying. And then Ocho Cinco had like do some dumb shit too. Who was like working out in their driveway?

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doing sit-ups. That was T.O. That's my quarterback. It's my teammate. He's the most newsworthy player in the NFL. I love T.O. I hate Shannon Sharp. Hall of Fame or T.O.? Is he in the Hall of Fame? No, they won't put him in there because of his antics, which is so ridiculous. That is ridiculous. He was a beast. Yeah. He was like Anquan Bulls.

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Yeah, his numbers are like second best ever for outside of Jerry Rice. Okay. Second best wide receiver ever? Statistically. Speaking of... Randy Moss is like, I think, a better receiver, but he didn't have as many longevity that T.O. did. Say the same about Megatron too, I think. Yeah.

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Speaking of assholes, Andy, what do you think of the commentators? I honestly wasn't paying attention. They were the usual, what the fuck was it? I didn't even write them down. It was Phil and Greg Gumbel. Yeah, Phil Simms. They did reference getting pegged by a snowball last time they were at Foxborough in this game. I was skipping through it a bit. It was at the very end of the game when the

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His fans are streaming out. Yeah. After the Broncos had a big pass play to ice it. And he's like, I hope one of them doesn't throw a snowball at me on their way out. Fuck you, Phil Simms. Greg, you're a fucking... Greg Gumbel? No. You like him? Yeah, he's fine. Wayne Brady makes Greg Gumbel look like Malcolm X. Shout out to the show.

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Sounds like a real term of endearment to me. Yep. That was about the time where I started skipping forward. That was the first quarter. Yeah, exactly. And they were like measuring a first down or something like that. Yep. Boy, is there shit going on. What the fuck about your pumpkin? I had someone apply to a job at my office and their email address on their resume was like,

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Something like Bananapuddin at yahoo.com. Oh, I have a way better one. Let's hear it, Steve. So like we are transitioning one golf course to another management company, like a small one in Michigan. And the dude's email was, his name was like Brad Gorney or something like that. And his name was Gorndog69, like hotmail. He's like, I was like, who do you want me to give Facebook access to?

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Speaking of pornography, Willie McGinnis in this game made my pants tight. You know what I had? A bunch of flashbacks to. A Donta Hightower in the Seahawks Super Bowl. Oh yeah? Because he had an, well Teddy actually had that running play hit. But there was actually some very similar Donta Hightower plays. Maybe between Teddy and Willie. Because Teddy like read the whole line.

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You would hit them with a Lombardi for there. They had like one drive. Just hit them with that. Put some more dents in it because this was bad. There was two sacks in the first seven plays including our punt. They had four sacks all on third down. I think the third downs was the tale of this game.

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he'd been doing throughout the game. It's crazy to watch defensive backs of Seabras back in 2002. There's a lot of contact. Oh my god, it's crazy. Every single play is a penalty. Yeah, and it would be these days. But yeah, this first quarter was the fact that it was only 7-0 Broncos at the end of it was bad. Although, it was basically 14-0 because Denver scored in the first play of the second quarter. That's going to list off some other shit that sucked.

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Brady throwing a triple coverage INT. Dion Branch getting tackled by the punter on an awesome punt return. I'll give him that one. The end of the third quarter where Tom Brady doesn't realize the clock is running out and he's looking at the game clock. Very Tom Brady-like. Oh, yeah. Dion Branch fumbling the kickoff. Yep. To be fair, he absolutely got blown up on that.

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works and that goes for negative yards. And then the next play, Brady gets sacked again and then they punt. And Debra actually fumbled that punt, but they recovered it. And then the next play was the deep ball that Ty Law picked off. Like this was a shit show to start. Yeah. Absolute shit show. Delta O'Neal got blown up on that poor guy. Delta O'Neal does not know. He does not know fair catch. Return punts. Yeah, because well, the first one he did get a fair catch.

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Make it go more than 20 yards. Yeah, just not great. So remember how we talked in the playoffs about Patriots playing in all three facets? This was exactly the opposite. Oh, yeah. And nobody covering Ed McCaffrey. Oh, God. I always loved Ed McCaffrey. The original McCaffrey. Yeah, that's true. Are they related? Wait. Yeah, that's his song. Who's the other McCaffrey? Christian McCaffrey. Oh, yeah. See, baby?

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Ed's. Run CMC? No, it's not. Because it is. Is it really? Yes. Stat check. I'll check it, but I'm pretty sure. I did not know Chris McCaffrey is Ed McCaffrey's son. Yeah, why do you think he's so good at football? I mean, it makes a shitload of sense now that I think about it, but I did not know that. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey, born in Colorado, the son of former Stanford NFL wide receiver Ed McCaffrey. Wow. And former Stanford soccer star.

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Giffen. He's a G.B. This is amazing. I think Steve found it. Holy shit. I didn't know this guy existed. You don't remember this? I do. I forgot how good it was, though. I thought he was a defensive back. I thought he was a receiver or something. I forgot how good this was. Number 36 for the 49ers. The icky shuffle, too.

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That was like a legendary one. Obviously, Billy White, she is. Scored goals in soccer. I used to make a shovel. That's my favorite one. So you never did it? I did it like rec soccer. I saw a highlight video of him defending Troy Brown. What? Yeah. I bet I didn't know. Bernanx is good too. Who else would be number 80 on the Patriots and like the old school Patriot Pat? Irving Fryer, maybe?

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He had four straight seasons as a pro baller. Can't believe I've never even heard of this guy. This is awesome. I mean, he's 91 to 99, so. Yeah. That was like my 400 years. Yeah, that's probably. It was like the good 49ers back then. Yeah. That lines up. The end of the good 49ers. Troy. This is amazing. I need to stop watching it. We're getting way off topic. How did he even come up? I don't even know how he got on in my neck. Long necks. Yeah.

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Oh, that's right. Yeah. That McCaffrey, you got nothing on me, Mark Hanks. Speaking of long necks, I just listened to a podcast on dinosaurs. Just kidding. This is what happens when the Patriots aren't losing. Could you imagine? So I know we've joked about it before, about doing a Browns on Browns podcast, a spinoff where we do this with the Browns. And it would be awful because they don't ever win the games. Yeah. You just got to talk about the humor and things, you know? I guess so.

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I do feel we could we could change it just a little bit and we could do Browns on Browns on Browns and only talk about players with the last name Browns who play for the Browns that's gonna be a very short podcast it's all we use one episode but why don't we just do Jim Brown with the last name Brown Jim Brown here you got one Steve we could do a whole episode on him alone yeah you ever heard of him he's only one of the best running backs to ever

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Play, Dick Ed. We can't do Browns on Browns and just do different NFL players. Browns on Browns on Browns. We can do any sport. We can do any sport. Nah, Browns on Browns on Browns. And we record all of them while we

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We can just talk about any athlete with the last name Brown. That's true. So there's another thing on here of the list of celebrations. Steve Smith doing a row of the boat after he scored against the Vikings the same year that they got caught in that love boat scandal. That's some good trolling right there. That's clever. The Randy Moss mooning one is pretty sweet too. That one I didn't really understand. I mean it's not that clever.

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I think the best part was that Joe Buck got so pissed about it. Well, no, the reason he did it was because the opposing team would always get mooned by the fans, like the Green Bay Packer fans. Yeah. They're either entering or leaving. So he was doing it back to them. It's like, I don't know. That's like cool. It's like C plus. I would have liked it more if he'd actually butts it out. If he got his butt cheeks out, that would have been legendary. I mean, what would they do?

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Let's take our dicks out. Let's take our tits out and let's have ourselves a good old time. You score a Super Bowl, you want to let your fucking dick hang around? You go ahead and do that, all right? Penis high fives? No. Okay, pumpkin. Do mushroom taps? No. Nice throw, Brady. Yeah, nice catch, Randy. Just fucking mashing.

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Just dog-ish, mashing cockheads together. Oh, Lord. How do we end up here? Maybe we don't have Greg on this week. We knew this was going to happen before we hit record. 2002 has been rough. I'm not going to lie. It's also the dog days of quarantine. I think that has part to do with it. Yeah, that's true, too. It feels fitting, though, doesn't it? Yeah.

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Suffering through this season while suffering through quarantine. That's true. I feel every Patriots fan should watch these games though. I agree. Because like if this is the longest losing streak, which is crazy to think about, it's 2002, it's 2020 now. Right. It was like 18 years ago. They will not lose more than three games in a row from here on out. That's crazy. And everyone thinks that like they're so expecting of it.

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burned bright for five years. And Eli Manning was a dimwit motherfucker, dumbass, for like 20. Which would you rather have? Like the bright star Terrell Davis or just Eli Manning plodding along through as many interceptions as he does touchdowns for 15, 20 years? Oh, you mean two-time Super Bowl winner? Yeah. Every so often he gets a little brightness and that's it. Eli Manning is the most frustrating.

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quarterback I've ever watched play football. He's just not good. I feel like the way he's Mark Sanchez out there. No, he's more frustrating because when he's out there, I feel like first down, second down, he makes horrendous decisions and like almost gets picked off both the times or something bad. Like it gets sacked or he, he, he accidentally fumbles the ball, but it was called an incompletion sort of bullshit. No, third down, he just hucks up a Hail Mary and his super talented wide receivers managed to come down with it.

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and throw a stupid pick. Yeah. Flacco, Tannehill, Sanchez. Tannehill? Yeah, dude. He's not good. We'll see. He's not. Titans are going to regret that contract super bad. Put it on the record. Yeah. I just did. What do you want me to do? Like send a certified letter to the Titans? I want. Let's tie

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We talked about this in this podcast before, Greg. And I brought up that Tom Brady quote about the Nate Clements hit and what he said after it. We've already been down this road, bro. Exactly. And I think we all agreed that you guys see everything through the lens of a fan and that you're not subjective. Objective? Hey, Greg, how does that fence post feel lodged that far up your asshole? Oh, so now I have to pick a side of the fence, Andy?

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And goddammit, I'm riding that fence because that's how I feel about things. Yeah. Because you can't make a decision or pick a decision. No, because there's nuances to everything. All right. Who are you voting for this November? I'm an independent, a registered independent. And you know what? Ron Paul has some really good. I'm voting against the system as a whole. I am. I know.

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Don't get me all riled up. You know what riled me up? What's that? Some of our cornerbacks on these Otis Smith and Terrence Wheatley. Like the third cornerback, even at this point, the second cornerback was a liability on the Patriots this time. It's starting to show up. Also, the fact they can't get any pressure on the quarterback too. Even on blitzes, they all get picked up. When you're giving Brian Greasy enough time to make completions,

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It's not great. Otis Smith matched up against Ed McCaffrey. I mean, you put Tom Brady behind center instead of Brian Greasy, he would have been 56 and nothing. Did Rob the Bod play in this game? Yes, he actually played really well, too. Underrated wide receiver. Way underrated. Yeah, but every time he caught the ball, he would pretend to juke and then just run straight at the defender and just lower his head and get another three or four yards.

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Well, it's him and Ty. Rod was definitely the number one at this time. Yeah. And they were battling all game. It was a great battle. And then Brian Greasy finally figured it out and just started looking at Ed McCaffrey every snap because he was wide open. Yeah. Those crossing routes every time. Oh, I got another Mike Shanahan running back name for you. Ruben Drones. Remember him? He's a fullback, right? Was he? Yeah, he's in this

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This is a slash game slash 73. Is there an apostrophe? What? No. Like Patriots? I mean, it's their dynasty, right? Oh, Lord. You try with an apostrophe and get back to me. Yeah. Although a lot of website addresses do have apostrophes, so I get where Greg is coming from on this. Suck it, Andy.

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Ooh, with gifts of each play. Go watch this Tyler interception, Greg. Week eight. I'm there right now. Dude, this is dope. Wait, you don't have the highlights. Like, please. Oh, yes, you do. It's under highlights. Yeah. I don't have that one up there yet, though. Brady to Fourier. This is my second play of the game here. No, this is actually my play of the game. Is it? Yeah, because if you watch this highlight, Greg, you'll notice.

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They all collapse on Troy, leaving Fourier wide open. Is Troy at the top of the screen or the bottom? He's at the bottom. So Troy runs like a curl route right before the end zone. Oh, yeah. And Fourier runs like a... There's like four guys on him. Yep. And everyone's like, yeah, it's going to Troy Brown. And then Fourier is legit wide, wide open. My play of the game is Antoine Smith's rushing touchdown, which we haven't said a lot.

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this year on this podcast because it is only his second touchdown run of the season. Ooh. Tough. Yeah. And he tweaked his knee, I think, on this play. Yeah. He was dragging a guy and the guy rolled up the back of his leg. Yeah. Real bad. But that and the play before where he kind of ran to the left side and then snaked his way all the way back to the right and picked up like 10 or 15 yards. It was like one drive where they could run the ball and they just ran it all the way in the touchdown. Yeah. That was the one.

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Yeah, can't wait for Corey Dillon to show up. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Anton was still pretty good, but he wasn't as good as I remember him being, I think. He was better last year. He was. This year, he can see. True, yeah. And I feel like part of that. Yeah, they started throwing the ball a lot more this year. Yeah, and I think part of it, you can put on the offensive line too. Like, there's no time, but they're not getting any push.

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I think he was overdrafted. Well, if he got picked one pick later, you would have said, oh, he's a second-round running back. He's doing pretty good. No, I wouldn't. If you're drafting a running back in the first or second round these days, they better be like Alvin Kamara. I agree. He got to start catching the ball. Yeah. But if he starts grabbing balls. James White for this. Well, like the problem is when you have Sonny in there, it's definitely run.

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And then, of course, it's interception. Oh, lordy. Oh, lord. All right, no bests? I mean, obviously, Troy Brown getting Christian Fourier touchdown. Okay. That shit doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but you know who loves that? Bill Belichick. Fucking right, he does. Well, I mean, is that a good play by Troy Brown or a bad play by the defense? Both. It's a bad play by the defense because of the good play of Troy Brown. What do you mean?

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Rod Smith had 10 targets, 7 catches, 54 yards. Troy Brown, 9 targets, 7 catches, 59 yards. Ed McCaffrey was 8 for 8 for 116. The next New England Patriot, David Patton, 5 targets, 0 catches, 0 yards. Yeah, he had a tough game. Let's see. This was not good. Dion Branch, 2 targets, 0 catches, 0 yards.

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So the only wide receiver that the Patriots had who caught a pass was Troy Brown. And he caught seven. So eat a dick, Rick Brown, is what I'm trying to say. My best of the game is Clinton Portis. He's got 26 carries for a buck, 11 and two touchdowns. That was a pretty impressive game from him. It wasn't like... Wouldn't you agree? No. No. Imagine that. No. We've been watching a lot of other running backs absolutely carve the Patriots out.

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100 and two touchdowns. So yeah, I'd be like that. I'm not saying it's a bad day, but I don't know. My second star is Ed McCaffrey. Eight catches on eight targets for 116. Yeah, I would have said nothing for him. You know who you should tell that to? The fucking Broncos podcast you're on. Well, you know what, Andy? If you want to expand the appeal of this podcast, maybe we should, you know. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Why the fuck are we trying to expand the appeal? It's 2002 week seven on a four game losing streak. Week eight.

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For all you listeners out there that are hate listening to this, I'm with you guys. I'm on your side. Nobody is hate listening to this, Craig. Dude, I hate listening to Sports Hub all the time. Felger and Maz. The only times I've ever listened to it is because they hate them. I do hate read Jets subreddits. So you know what? Let's actually reach out and see if anybody hate listens to us. If you do,

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Let us know on Twitter or Facebook. That's what I hate about Felger and Maz is they both have the same opinions on everything. Yeah. So you're just trying to be contrarian just to mix it up a bit? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Exactly. You don't hold these thoughts at all? Eddie, Eddie, you... What? Yeah. Known this kid for how long? I guess I just thought the better of him. No. Why would you think Greg has any good...

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motivations at all or is nice or is rational or is cool or has a nice thought or is yeah smart that's the duality of human nature though you know like me and you and you are sitting over here like loving the patriots and greg over there is just being a fucking douche there it is you guys just aren't as well-rounded as me well that's what it is yeah you could you could learn a thing or two about my from my face

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Yeah, it's a tough one to say. Enmity. Ooh, that is a tough one to say. Yeah. The state or feeling of being actively oppressed or hostile to someone or something. Opposed, but yes. It's basically like pure, unadulterated hate towards something. That's Greg and Bill Belichick. That's how you feel about me? No, that's how you feel about Bill Belichick. Yeah, that's what your face gives off to the world.

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I don't know. I think people either hate it or love it because it's got a little bit of everything. You know like some chicks like beard guy, some chicks like clean shave. Well, bada bing, bada boom. Check out this fucking side. Talking about cross appeal. I'm hitting that strip club, bringing questionnaires. What?

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I'm bringing a questionnaire to the strip club, Andy, that says, do you like beards or not? I'm giving it to the strippers instead of money. I take it back. I don't want an explanation. Per usual, it's like a weird turn. So my best was Tom Brady wearing gloves on both hands because that was fucking goofy as shit. Ooh, double glove in it. That's very Teddy Bridgewater of him. Right.

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He can't smell it. I know. Bro. Bro. You want to see my fucking literature SAT score? It'll blow your tits off. He's Google right now as he says all this. It's fine. You'll spell it for us in a second. I don't remember what the SAT was out of, but mine was a fucking very high score for reading and literature. I still have my SAT scores. Bet they were higher. Yeah, I bet you did poorly on humility. That's not a score.

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I thought you were using that as an example of generic. No. Tyrone Anderson, Rod Smith. Clinton Portis. Didn't Poole play for the Pats? Yes, I'm pretty sure he did. He would join the Patriots the following season. Well, how about that? Can't beat him, join him. Or if you can beat him, join him anyway. Yeah, nobody of know. Yeah, right, Steve.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, if we have anybody left at this point, I suppose we should thank them for listening this far. You can rate our podcast, too. If you want to give Greg feedback on what his face looks like.

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So rate this podcast.com slash Pat's pod. Do you want me to send you some photos? Yes, please. Greg, you have to send one like every week so you can see the progression. I am. I'm addicted to selfies now. That sounds right. You have addictive personality. This is true. I've I honestly like I probably before I started doing this with my beard. I don't think like I ever took a selfie. Maybe like once or twice. I take one.

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That's why I haven't sent it to anyone, but I love doing it. It's okay, Greg. I already have. Yeah. Yeah. I have no, you know, opinions of you of any high regard. So feel free to send them to me. I know. You want to do a live review? I'll just put them on Twitter for us. You want me to do a live one here? Okay. Yeah. Send one to you right now. This will be the one that we post. Just turn on your video. No, please don't.

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And this upcoming weekend happens to be July the 4th. So I'm thinking. Stripes on my head. Star on my face. Okay. I just feel the girls are going to love it. They see the half beer, Greg. Just, you know, hold out one more week. Steve, go fuck yourself. I just want to see it. I want to see it again in person, to be honest. Well, I want you to show

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Did you see the second photo? Yeah, the second one was... That's some long ass hair. It makes me wonder why you want to be... Dude, I've also been doing real life emojis. That series is wild. But I can't let those ones get out where I do like... Yes, you can. The monocle one. I have a monocle one.

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Are you in Slack anywhere? Because you can create your own Slack emojis. No, these Microsoft teams. Oh, gross. Andy, you are on the right path ending this. This is getting ridiculous. Yeah, this is over. This has been over for a while, just like this Patriots game. Is this going to be aired? I don't know. Yeah.

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These selfies are electric. I'm going to them right now. There's some killer selfies in here. Speaking of electric, next week, you're going to travel to Buffalo. I'm not going to ruin Steve. Pat's at bills. Pat's at bills. I think you know what happens. What better way to get off the schneid? Than a Tom Brady in Buffalo. Crypto Ralph.

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streak ends because Tom Brady always wins a Buffalo. I can count on my hands the times Tom Brady. I know each game where he's lost to the Bills. He's only lost, I think, three of them. Is that what we just said? Yeah. And one of them, he only played a half. So this might not be one of those, but you'll have to tune in next week on the Pages Dinesy podcast if you're still with us after Gregory this week. We'll see you then. Maybe. Bye, guys. See ya.

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